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The Villain movie starring Shivaraj kumar and Kiccha sudeepa has become the highest grossing kannada movie with 123 crore rupees world wide gross , so please update the list [[User:SUHAS JAYANNA|SUHAS JAYANNA]] ([[User talk:SUHAS JAYANNA|talk]]) 19:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
The Villain movie starring Shivaraj kumar and Kiccha sudeepa has become the highest grossing kannada movie with 123 crore rupees world wide gross , so please update the list [[User:SUHAS JAYANNA|SUHAS JAYANNA]] ([[User talk:SUHAS JAYANNA|talk]]) 19:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

== The villain highest grossing kannada movie ==

https://www.filmibeat.com/kannada/news/2018/the-villain-box-office-collections-update-how-much-has-sudeep-shivarajkumar-film-collected/articlecontent-pf268932-279124.html Please refer to the link. The villain movie has collected gross 123 cr ra worldwide [[User:SUHAS JAYANNA|SUHAS JAYANNA]] ([[User talk:SUHAS JAYANNA|talk]]) 19:10, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

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Kayamkulam Kochunni

Admins..please clarify how Kayamkulam kochnnu came in the list.The source you provided is manorama.In that it is mentioned that the makers has confirmed the collection.As per the rule you created for Great father,if the source has something like "makers confirmed",it should not have been considered as a source right?Then why it is not applicable for Kayamkulam Kochunni?Again and again you are showing partiality for mammotty movies.If you are doing a duty,at least do it sincerely...If you have any answer,then please clarify. This is the question to you Cyphoidbomb — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagar.kottappuram777 (talkcontribs) 09:34, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Kayamkulam Kochunni -58 crore..sources cinetrak,newminutes???

Again the very own sincere admins..how can you put cinetrak and newminutes as a trusted source and on what basis you put kochunni collected 58 crore..is it bcos lal acted in that?Is this rules applicable only for mamootty's movie???catchnews,newminutes,cinetrack etc...what kind of sources are these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.16.230.15 (talk) 09:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kannada top grossing movies it is not appropriate!!

Kottigobba 2 collection according to its Wikipedia page is 102 - 104 cr Chiranth01 (talk) 04:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Chiranth01: Well that's just clearly nonsense, isn't it? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:24, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Villain kannada movie not even collected 50cr..its flop for distribution.. How you added 123cr..non of the kannada movie crossed 100cr collection.. Present industry hit rajakumara Nithin1111 (talk) 10:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Telugu movie collections

Hi there, I had a question regarding the Telugu movie collections. It seems that Jr. NTR's films are not there despite Janatha Garage, Jai Lava Kusa, and Aravinda Sametha Veera Raghava all grossing more than the last film on the list, Geetha Govindam (according to each article's respective infobox, anyways). Also, shouldn't Srimanthudu be lower on the list because of its lower gross compared to Khaidi No. 150? Thanks. 2604:C340:AC:1:E052:86D:F0D7:CE95 (talk) 20:22, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, looking through the infoboxes of the movies in this Telugu list, it seems that most of these numbers have to be updated per the references used in each individual article. 2604:C340:AC:1:E052:86D:F0D7:CE95 (talk) 20:31, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is the inherent problem with lists of this nature. Since there is no one authority on film rankings in Indian cinema, or Telugu Indian cinema, Wikipedia has somehow become the arbiter of the top 10 highest-grossing Telugu films. Where are the Telugu news outlets to weigh in on this and agree on a ranking, so that it's not up to Wikipedia? And how do we prove that there are no films in between the others you've listed that may have grossed more? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:48, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(Those above messages were sent by me, guess I forgot to log in, whoops). I can see your point. It is rather unfortunate that Wikipedia is in this awkward position. I'm afraid I don't have a solution to those issues. Shrev64 (talk) 07:21, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Shrev64: You could always go through those films and reorganise them in the highest-grossing list. It's quite possible that over time some films got bumped out by accident or perniciously. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:03, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tamil movies gross

Remove Verram as that entry doesn't have any citations on it. Add the recent movies sarkar to the list as the it has grossed 150CR [1] also the movie is still in screens


GondorianSteward (talk) 23:59, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done In these edits I restored Lingaa, which had been removed without justification by Namelesswarrior55. When the myriad sources feel that Sarkar has comfortably exceeded Lingaa's 154 crore, then we can boot Lingaa off the list. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:46, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2018

Malayalam film Kayamkulam Kochunni (2018 film) grossed 70 crore worldwide. https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/nivin-pauly-s-kayamkulam-kochunni-grosses-rs-70-crore-91090 2405:204:D381:59FA:CDF4:FE47:4821:726F (talk) 04:44, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 04:53, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tugs of Hindustan

Tugs of Hindustan not even crossed 150cr as per trade analyst tharan adharsh..but how can you people put that movie in 200cr weekend collection list.. Vshek (talk) 05:48, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Need references. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:25, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No valid source for two Telugu movies

The box office collection of two Telugu movies seems to be source-less. They are Rangasthalam and Bharat Ane Nenu. In fact, the numbers claimed were not true according to some recent articles. Take a look at a reliable source which claims the box office collection of Rangasthalam and Bharat Ane Nenu accordingly. 1. https://www.ibtimes.co.in/rangasthalam-50-day-box-office-collection-ram-charan-delivers-highest-grosser-2018-769553 2. https://www.ibtimes.co.in/bharat-ane-nenu-total-box-office-collection-mahesh-babu-starrer-completes-50-days-771352 So the exact figure of The above movies should be corrected to, Rangasthalam- 210 Crores and Bharat Ane Nenu- 225 Crores. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.223.142 (talk) 10:53, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done by Rajan51 here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:08, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Highest grossing films in Tamil

Sarkar - 300 Crores — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijaymessi (talkcontribs) 09:23, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Need references. Rajan51 (talk) 10:47, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Baahubali is Tollywood film not Kollywood

It is a Telugu film which was actually made in both Telugu and dubbed Tamil at the same time. It is not Bollywood. Source: [1] Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 11:14, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Siddiqsazzad001: And where was it decided that each of those sections would only represent money made by an ethnic industry? Were you a part of that conversation? Because if not, you need to change that back and let the discussion actually take place. And for your edification: this RfC. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:16, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bahubali is telugu based. All this while bahubali was not featuring in tamil list. Now it is reflecting in tamil language. In that case 2.0 should be featuring in tollywood (telugu) as well. Same like bahubali 2.0 is done Kbwiki18 (talk) 16:55, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2.0 Film 3 days WW collection

"Change the collection of tamil movie 2.0 from 200 crores WW to 290 crores WW as reported by Mr. Ramesh Bala,trade analyst earlier this hour."

references- "https://twitter.com/rameshlaus/status/1069197638589763584."
Purnachandrashekarv (talk) 12:36, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Twitter is not a reliable source as twitter users self-publish the content in it, thus self-published. For this reason it can be considered that you have not provided any reliable sources with your requested change, since the Twitter link was the only thing that you have provided in your request. Please find another link that leads to a reliable source, and create another request with that reliable source. Aceing_Winter_Snows_Harsh_Cold (talk) 04:04, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2018

Baahubali 2: The Conclusion and Baahubali: The Beginning are not listed under the Tamil language films, despite being bilinguals. Please list them using the #key which indicates their bilingual status. Sources for gross are present in the first subsection, and also in Telugu subsection. RajFilmBuff (talk) 06:42, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DBigXray 06:45, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@DBigXray: The gross is right in this article and sourced (see #2 and #6 here); here are sources identifying the language: The Indian Express and the Hindu state it is a bilingual. However, our article does not list both films in Tamil language. The note signifies gross is to be taken for all languages together and there was consensus for it in 2015. For further input, see this RfC. Please restore to stable version. RajFilmBuff (talk) 11:51, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Note: DBigXray I'm gonna review this since it does seem these films were included in the Tamil section but removed without consenus at some point. The sources in the article do list these two films as being bilingual and there was a previous RfC on the matter that was closed with the consensus that these two films should be in the Tamil section. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 16:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, User:Alucard 16 in light of the new information and the refs, please proceed, I note that I have no concerns in adding what has been requested. regards. --DBigXray 16:14, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ah so after looking at the revision history here is the issue. As of the revision on 08:42, November 29, 2018 @Sakthi1101: removed these two films from the Tamli section against established consensus. This has started a chain reaction of editors adding/removing the two titles from the section in question. Here is a small list of diffs in relation to the issue:
I double checked the talk page archives seven - twelve to see if a difference consensus had been reached overriding the previous RfC found in Archive 6 and there hasn't been. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 16:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Done I added the two films back into the article as per the standing community consensus found here and according to the sources in the article. Editors @Sakthi1101 and Siddiqsazzad001: please do not revert these changes or remove them from the Tamil section without a proper and thorough discussion to achieve a consensus on the matter. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 16:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Alucard 16: Great due diligence on your part! Thanks for that. @Siddiqsazzad001: It's pretty irritating that although I left you a note on your talk page and on this talk page above, and directly educated you about the lack of consensus for the change, you did not revert your erroneous edit. As a result of that, look at the extra work that other people had to do above. Totally pointless, especially when common sense should have told you that since we've organised the contents of this article under "Highest-grossing films by language" not "Highest-grossing films by language industry" there might be some mixing of information, not ethnic absolutism. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:50, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyphoidbomb: Oh! Sorry for delay. I was so busy. Thank You for clarify me. Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 17:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Yugesh kanniah: I just left a notice on your talk page but I'm pinging you here to read this discussion since you just tried to remove these films from the Tamil section. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 17:46, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2018

For the section "Highest-grossing opening weekends", need to add 2.0 movie at 2nd in the list. reference is available at [40] Archat (talk) 11:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 15:51, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bahubali 2 is a telugu movie dont consider in tamil movies. If you consider bilingual then 2.0 is trilingual add it in telugu and hindi movie section too

Bahubali 2 is a telugu movie dont consider in tamil movies. If you consider bilingual then 2.0 is trilingual add it in telugu and hindi movie section too — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sakthi1101 (talkcontribs) 16:49, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sakthi1101: You're bringing up an ancient argument about Baahubali that was resolved through extensive discussion years ago. The list is organised under "Highest-grossing films by language" not "language industry". As for 2.0, it's still unclear to me whether it was shot in three languages. There was some early speculation about this in the media, but it's not been made clear if it was actually shot in three languages. Obviously we wouldn't consider dubs. If it has been shot in three languages, then yes, for consistency the information should be moved into the relevant tables. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:56, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about the Indian film industry my primary focus would be the American film industry aka Hollywood since I'm from the United States however when it comes to reviewing edit requests for all articles I can't go against an established consensus and reliable sources. When it comes to films like Baahubali 2: The Conclusion its pretty hard not to include it in the Tamil section when you have a reliable source that clearly says "Baahubali is a bilingual project made in Tamil and Telugu." The same source also makes a clear distinction that the Hindi version was dubbed (which is why these films are not in the Hindi section.) From what I can find about 2.0 this source says that film was dubbed in Telugu which would explain why its not included in the Telugu list. If your wanting to remove Baahubali: The Beginning and Baahubali 2: The Conclusion from the Tamil list then find reliable sources that states it was dubbed in Tamil to support your case in a discussion to change the consensus. If you want 2.0 in the Telugu section then find reliable sources saying it is a bilingual project. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 17:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bahubali is not bilingual. Bahubali 1 released in 2015 and 2 in 2017. All of a sudden it is included in tamil list in this week (dec 18). Intentions are clearly visible Kbwiki18 (talk) 16:59, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reg Bahubali 2

I have conflict regarding Bahubali 2 which is updated in both telugu and tamil. Actual bahubali 2 tamil collection is 300 crores. Rest of 1500 crore in other languages. Including bahubali 2 in both tamil and telugu brings conflict that it has earned 1800 crore in both the languages. @ Cyphoidbomb if you are updating based on languages , not by industries. then include earnings only in that language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sakthi1101 (talkcontribs) 17:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the way this article is structured in the Highest-grossing films by language section there is a note that shades the "Worldwide gross" of the film letting the reader know that the film is bilingual and the worldwide gross is total amount the film has collected. This does not imply the film made the same amount in each language. The breakdown about the film has earned per language would be great information to add to the article of the film with a reliable source. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 17:39, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sakthi1101: Please don't create a new discussion every time you want to reply. Just comment below like Alucard and I have done. In response to your latest proposal, it is an interesting idea and I'd be curious what other members of WP:ICTF thought of it. My main concern is that there might be insufficient references to sustain this type of information consistently, since there is an increasing trend of shooting films in multiple languages. If 2.0 is a multilingual film (I still don't know if it is) then where are we going to find a source that breaks down gross by language? We already have problems with the Indian film analysts' poor reporting. Also, if (as you say) the rest of the 1500 Baahubali 2 gross is other languages, are you proposing that we'd have to subtract the gross values of those dubs? Would we also have to know whether the dubs were based on the Tamil or Telugu version before making such a subtraction? Seems potentially very complicated. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kannada highest grossing the villain

The Villain movie starring Shivaraj kumar and Kiccha sudeepa has become the highest grossing kannada movie with 123 crore rupees world wide gross , so please update the list SUHAS JAYANNA (talk) 19:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The villain highest grossing kannada movie

https://www.filmibeat.com/kannada/news/2018/the-villain-box-office-collections-update-how-much-has-sudeep-shivarajkumar-film-collected/articlecontent-pf268932-279124.html Please refer to the link. The villain movie has collected gross 123 cr ra worldwide SUHAS JAYANNA (talk) 19:10, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]