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Singapore does not have universal health care

UHC Map

Moved to commons:File_talk:Universal_health_care.svg#Map_based_on_unreliable_ILO_source

– Discussion on the UHC map is moved here. Please continue this discussion there. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:30, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria for inclusion

Since this page is called 'Universal health coverage by country' (and consists, initially, of descriptions taken from the Universal health coverage article), we should have some criteria for what makes a country eligible to be on this list. Any ideas? One criteria I think should be that a 3rd party source has covered the health system in the country and called it a program of 'Universal healthcare' or 'universal health coverage'.--KarlB (talk) 17:02, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A good example of why this is necessary is Hong Kong's entry. It explains some of the reasons Hong Kong has a good healthcare system, but says nothing about if that healthcare is actually universal or not. While there's a link to Hong Kong's healthcare system, the current body of that entry has no bearing on this article.--68.69.245.84 (talk) 09:47, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why do some countries have 'Free Health care' but not 'Universal Health Care'? I'd think the former implies the latter. Why is the list of countries sorted randomly? I'd sort it for you if you wish, but wonder if there's method.Jamesdowallen (talk) 07:34, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

needs a Map

this article is in terrible need of a colour coded map. Roidroid (talk) 09:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

added. The map was revised from the previous version. Please take a look and add comments here: [1]. --KarlB (talk) 21:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relocated content

I have relocated the international content from the article Socialized medicine (which is now focused more tightly on American political discourse) to the sections here on Australia, Cuba, China, Finland, Israel and Russia. The additional material needs integrating into the relevant individual sections here. That is, each of the expanded individual countries' content needs to be checked for coherence and to remove any repetition. There was also quite a lot of material about the UK that was taken from Socialized medicine and because the UK section here is already big, I placed the extra content on the Talk page of Healthcare in the United Kingdom, from where it needs to be moved into the best place among a number of articles about healthcare in that country. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 02:14, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia and Azerbaijan

It is widely known and reported over the net that neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan provide universal health care per guidelines on this article. Read these independent sources about Azerbaijan's health status, about how the Ministry of Health faked reports on the mortality rate and bribes to medical physicians, written by the USAID and a report by the Institute for War & Peace Reporting here: http://www.bu.edu/actforhealth/actforhealth04/AZHealthReport.pdf and http://iwpr.net/report-news/health-insurance-plan-stalls-azerbaijan. Armenia's health care's status is widely found over the net, and the health situation is similar: http://www.euro.who.int/en/what-we-do/health-topics/Health-systems/health-systems-financing/country-work/armenia. --Vitilsky (talk) 19:40, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Genel Sağlık Sigortası" in Turkey

Turkey has also Universal health coverage which is called "Genel sağlık sigortası" in there.

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Inaccurate GESS and ISSA website trivia in lede

I removed the following addition of inaccurate GESS and ISSA website trivia to the lede:

10:42, 2 December 2013 Emily G. Miller (talk | contribs):
Developments in Universal Health Coverage can be tracked using the ILO's Global Extension of Social Security (GESS) website as well as the International Social Security Association website. However, universal coverage must be measured not only in terms of legislation but also in terms of access. According to the ILO's World Social Security Report (2010/11) "In order to achieve the objectives of social health protection, legal universal coverage needs to lead to effective access to health services," as in some countries all people may be covered by law but "in reality they do not have such access when they need it."

Thus, measuring Universal Health Coverage requires not only measuring legislation but also several factors which indicate effective access, including formal health coverage, maternal mortality ratio, out of pocket expenditure, relative deficit in health spending, and percentage of population not covered due to health professional staff deficit.

Universal health coverage cannot be tracked using the ILO's Global Extension of Social Security (GESS) website or the International Social Security Association (ISSA) website.
The ILO's error-filled World Social Security Report (2010/11)—which says the United States has universal 100% health insurance coverage—is not a WP:Reliable source.
Trivia does not belong in the lede of a Wikipedia article. Apatens (talk) 14:34, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Map

The map seems inaccurate/outdated. For example, it shows Malaysia not having a universal healthcare system, and then the article states it does. Someone needs to make a new one, and hopefully include countries in the process of implementing universal healthcare (such as Indonesia, which is currently creating the largest single-payer healthcare system in the world).--RM (Be my friend) 11:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I seems to me that both China and Mexico need to be added to the map, as well as North Korea. Kazakhstan and Iran may need to be added soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.222.242.69 (talk) 15:44, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I made a new map

Mirarkitty (talk) 08:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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What about Turkey ?

I lived in Turkey and they also have a Universal Health Care system which is not as good and as well funded as in Europe but still everyone can have an access. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.234.110.186 (talk) 18:03, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

United States

The name of this article is "List of countries with universal health care". The section on the USA starts with "The United States does not have a universal health care system." Should we therefore remove it from this list? Tompw (talk) 16:57, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense to me. Why should the US be listed in this article? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:27, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agree completely. And yet, here it still is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jriley555 (talk • contribs) 21:49, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Now?

The date for the list of countries with coverage is 2009. Is there a source for more recent information? Things may have changed since then. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 20:40, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Estonia is not actually universal coverage

I quibble, perhaps, but researching this, discover that in Estonia, to be eligible for treatment, you must register for work - making yourself available for employment training schemes and any job that is offered. If you don't work or are not registered to work, the hospital door remains firmly closed. This is not what I took 'universal healthcare' to mean, and I might feel misled even. Heck, I dunno, maybe we don't actually think it's a big deal, the matter of the very small percentage of the population who refuse to work or look for work. Or did I phrase that wrong -- because in Estonia, it's a big deal.DanLanglois (talk) 11:39, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Indonesia

As of at least 2014, Indonesia has a universal health care program (or at least a program aiming for universal healthcare) with the launch of a compulsory national health insurance. List and graph needs updating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Septmars (talk • contribs) 07:54, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Israel

In Israel you have to pay an amount of about $40 each month to have medical insurance. Otherwise you are not eligible and have to pay for medical services in cache. Also, specialist doctors are not free even if under insurance. Hospitalization is covered, but to go to the hospital you typically need a recommendation from a paid specialist. Prescription medicines are paid. Also, ambulance is paid and very expensive even for the insured.--Reciprocist (talk) 09:29, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Countries with 100% Universal Care?

This page lists countries which do NOT have universal health care, notably the United States. As such, it is deceptive and unhelpful.

Where's the list of countries that actually do have universal health care?

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 In Israel you have to pay an amount of about $40 each month to have medical insurance. Otherwise you are not eligible and have to pay for medical services in cache. Also, specialist doctors are not free even if under insurance. Hospitalization is covered, but to go to the hospital you typically need a recommendation from a paid specialist. Prescription medicines are paid. Also, ambulance is paid and very expensive even for the insured.--[[User:Reciprocist|Reciprocist]] ([[User talk:Reciprocist|talk]]) 09:29, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
+== Countries with 100% Universal Care? ==
+This page lists countries which do NOT have universal health care, notably the United States. As such, it is deceptive and unhelpful.
+Where's the list of countries that actually do have universal health care?