User talk:RoySmith

Seasons greetings

Happy Yuletide!

Merry Yuletide to you! (And a happy new year!)

hello nice to meet you

My name is ImmortalWizard. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 23:37, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Same here. I see your decision as wise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Constitutional_rights_of_pregnant_inmates Bandwidth is cheap to free so it is not necessary to delete but to merge/redirect is better. Some in Wikipedia foam at the mouth and want to destroy and delete a lot of things. I am more tolerant. As long as it is not inflammatory, BLP violating, or clearly rubbish, merge is fine. Cheesesteak1 (talk) 22:33, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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23:13, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Louis Sola

You closed a Deletion Review at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2019_January_30#Louis_Sola as Endorsed. It isn't entirely clear to me whether you are saying that the deletion decision was correct and a new article should not be evaluated, or whether you are saying that the deletion decision was correct at the time but a new article may be evaluated. If the former, I will decline the current draft again. If the latter, I will review the draft again, and will probably accept it. What was the significance of the Endorse? (We had never been questioning whether the original deletion was correct, but whether it had changed.) Robert McClenon (talk) 04:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your note. I've updated my close to address your question. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:40, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

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Endless recreation

Conspiracy Series with Shane Dawson seems to be the latest attempt to recreate the page previously deleted after AfD discussions Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conspiracy Series by Shane Dawson and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Shane Dawson Conspiracy Series and of course Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conspiracy Series (Special Edition). Persistent! Bakazaka (talk) 02:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Sigh. Unfortunately, I think this meets the not substantially identical exclusion to WP:G4, so I don't think I can delete it on sight. I suggest bringing it to AfD, where I suspect it'll go down in flames. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:16, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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21:17, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

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Citing Sources

Could you explain the reason for this revert:

• [5]

Or if this was a simple mistake or accidemnt please correct it.--Kmhkmh (talk) 14:01, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Whoops. Yeah, I was on a mobile device and got an accidental mis-click. I thought I had canceled it, but I guess not. Thanks for pointing it out. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for the fix.--Kmhkmh (talk) 14:27, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Maruch Santíz Gómez

Hello Roy, thanks for reviewing the draft of this article. I'm not sure about the criteria in considering the article as promotional, or if you can support me pointing me the paragraphs or the parts that you are considering as promotion. Greetings from Mexico, ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 22:21, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hola. It's hard to point to any specific thing, but the whole article just has a tone of trying to show the subject in the best possible light, with flowery language. Phrases like, "communitarian immersive research" sound more like what you'd see in an advertisement than in an encyclopedia. It might be useful to read WP:TONE. My Spanish is pretty poor, but looking at es:Maruch_Santíz_Gómez (and a little help from Google Translate), it looks like this comes from, "Maruch realiza un proceso de investigación inmersiva comunitaria". I'll agree that's probably an accurate translation, but it still comes out like it's trying to sell the reader on something.

One thing that's complicated with translating articles from other wikis is that each wiki has their own rules and customs. Here on the English wikipedia, we're careful to avoid promotional language. I don't know what the Spanish wiki does; such writing may be entirely accepted there. So, if you start with something that's promotional, the translation becomes tricky.

You'll also want to read WP:Translate#How to translate to review our requirements for proper attribution. You said in your initial edit comment, "Starting translation from Spanish article.", but we need something more specific than that.

I hope that's been useful. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:11, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-10

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16:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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Sharmeena Begum

Hi Roy, Thanks for your comment as part of the AfD closure. I have rewritten the hatnote. Hopefully it is clearer now. Obviously it will need to be updated if their statuses change. I agree with the point re. Daily Mail - especially since it seems all the other sources for this section refer back to it. However, the Evening Standard - which is considered reliable - picks up the report and seems to add their own editorial which confirms the story, so I'm inclined to accept this. It's useful to keep the source in the article as it is mentioned by the other sources. I wouldn't want it on its own, of course. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 14:09, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. On the DM issue, I simply felt obligated to note the issue. I'll leave it up to your editorial judgement how to handle it. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:11, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Hmmm, I just read your revised hatnote wording. I'd strongly suggest you stay away from the "currently" wording. As I stated earlier, consider somebody reading this 10 years from now. The "currently" reference is going to be meaningless. Take a look at the similar hatnote at Shamima Begum, which is worded better, because it will still make sense to somebody reading it in the distant future. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:18, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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19:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Smeller (Scent Performance Technology)

Hello Roy, Thanks for your comment on the title! I changed the title so it should be more fitting now. I am pretty new to Wikipedia and am glad for every help I can get to improve my article and editing. --Alecsodian 11:12, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Help with Deleted NetBase Solutions page

Hi @RoySmith, I was hoping to start a conversation regarding the notability discussion/deletion of NetBase Solutions page. We missed the review discussion period and are only now realizing our Wikipedia page was recently deleted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/NetBase_Solutions#NetBase_Solutions

It's suggested to reach out to the admin who deleted our page first, so I wanted to see if there were any actions you'd recommend to either A. get this page undeleted or B.recreate the page that has sufficient notability. Many of the sources of this original wikipedia page were decidedly outdated and we'd be happy to update them in hopes of providing threshold of significance.

Appreciate your time, ScottHin45 (talk) 14:31, 15 March 2019 (UTC)ScottHin45

I assume your use of "we" implies you have some business relationship with the subject. Please see WP:COI and [11], in particular "Paid contributions without disclosure". Beyond that, the AfD was unanimous that this did not meet WP:GNG. You can ask for a review, but based on what I saw in the AfD, it's very unlikely it'll get overturned. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:56, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

NetBase AfD original page copy request

Hi RoySmith, Thank you for your comment and help on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/NetBase_Solutions. Full discloser I have a COI with NetBase, with whom I work. Would you be able to provide the deleted page content that I may review to better understand the AfD dicsussion? Thanks again! --ScottHin45 (talk) 21:49, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Before anything else can happen, you need to make the appropriate disclosure on your user page per WP:DISCLOSE. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:15, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi RoySmith,

Thanks again for your assistance. I have disclosed my COI according to WP:DISCLOSE guidelines. With that in place, could I request a copy of the deleted page content? Question, if I provided additional Notability references to the above NetBase article, do you believe that would be enough to warrant a review? Would my COI prevent my involvement in this process? Thank you!ScottHin45 (talk) 18:15, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm still not seeing anything at User:ScottHin45. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:12, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Sigh. You put it on your talk page. I moved it to your user page. I've restored the deleted page to User:ScottHin45/NetBase Solutions. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:17, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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19:44, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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The WP:THREE best sources

Hi RoySmith,

I am writing to let you know I have the three sources you requested regarding my article for submission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Event_Tickets_Center#History

They are:

https://searchengineland.com/amp-ecommerce-case-study-event-ticket-center-277444 https://www.stonetemple.com/amp-case-study/event-tickets-center/ https://advertise.bingads.microsoft.com/en-us/insights/stories/event-tickets-center

Also check out: https://www.ampproject.org/case-studies/event_ticket_center/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clemfandango223 (talk • contribs) 21:24, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

I resubmitted the article for review. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clemfandango223 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

User:Maryevhill/sandbox

It doesn't appear to be an autobiography but an advertisement for a book by the author. Same principle, but slightly clearer case, because autobiographies are strongly discouraged, but advertising is forbidden. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:25, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for Dorothy Hague

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Dorothy Hague. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 157.52.12.31 (talk) 14:23, 21 March 2019 (UTC)