Talk:Game of Thrones

I believe the cast list should be changed to actually show the cast; as opposed to its current status of just being a link to another page:

I would like to request that I, or somebody else, changes this. I personally feel it would be far more straight forward to users for it to be this way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 17AlDavi (talk • contribs) 17:37, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

The cast page is enormous - I think the current layout with that as a separate page makes more sense. Caidh (talk) 21:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Agreed with Caidh. No change is required here today. -- Alex^TW 00:17, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Am with you there some slightly changes needs to be done, there must be the direct link to show main cast of the series Walterfredie (talk) 17:19, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2019

41.223.134.43 (talk) 00:20, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -- /Alex/₂₁ 00:24, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Lighting material

Regarding this, this, this and this, MLTRock might have a point since the material has been covered in WP:Reliable sources. But we don't include everything that has been covered in reliable sources. And whether this content is best suited in this article or a related article is also something to consider. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:55, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Could we include it in the page for The Long Night (Game of Thrones)? I haven't seen this being a massive complaint until this episode, and searching for "game of thrones lighting" on google brings up articles that talk about that episode. Since most of the talk comes from that episode it only makes sense to me to put it there. QueerFilmNerd^talk 01:59, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

MLTRock:Complaints about the lighting have been common for years on for example Twitter: https://twitter.com/iontrone/status/606956702441693184 https://twitter.com/MAGGlEHE/status/745848744877428737 https://twitter.com/orysonehand/status/600107837461696512 https://twitter.com/matrioshkadog/status/606335839354896384 https://twitter.com/kudya_not/status/726953754403049473 https://twitter.com/_troyjohnson/status/741796534858092544 https://twitter.com/babelmonk/status/442758717847900160 https://twitter.com/lindsayjoane/status/724405311566569473 https://twitter.com/BB_Addict/status/453614669400272896 .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MLTRock (talk • contribs) 02:14, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

We can't just cite random twitter users, we need to use reliable sources, and fan's "complaining" on twitter aren't reliable sources. QueerFilmNerd^talk 02:44, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

MLTRock: Those tweets are example of complaints. I have cited reliable sources about there having been complaints in the past in Game_of_Thrones#Lighting_issues. These complaints didn't start with season 8's episode 3. Personally, the lighting problems didn't bother me until that particular episode so I understand your reluctance to include this issue in Game_of_Thrones, but the complaints have been around a lot longer, so I think it's fair to mention them there.MLTRock (talk) 02:57, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

You have to cite reliable sources "as examples of complaints" testyfing the season/episode/year you claim they started. You say "These complaints didn't start with season 8's episode 3." and "have been around a lot longer" but do not say, with a reliable source, when it was. Most of the sources are about season 8 or ep 3 - please remove excessive sources which are only about season 8 ep3 from the first sentence; for the last sentence, 3 sources are enough. I support QueerFilmNerd's idea to move that to The Long Night (Game of Thrones) - let's wait for more editors to express their views. BTW based on "Personally, the lighting problems didn't bother me until that particular episode", please check WP:ADVOCACY. ;-) WikiHannibal (talk) 11:10, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

I think this is too narrow of a complaint/criticism to be included in the main article. It would be much better suited in the article for the episode itself, as the majority of the sources are for that episode. Drovethrughosts (talk) 12:22, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

No Episodes or Series Overview section

First time looking at this article, and took some time to find seasons and episodes information. I eventually located a link to List of Episodes in the infobox, and then a season's table under Adaptation Schedule, under Production. This seems less than convenient. Is there a reason there's no first-level Episodes or Series Overview section? --Tsavage (talk) 06:25, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Criticism regarding subtitles

There has been a slow motion edit war by @Calavj: to insert claims that Game of Thrones has been criticized for lacking subtitles. A quick check of the source cited leads me to the belief it does not belong in this article. The article does not criticize Game of Thrones or its producers for lacking subtitles, they criticize its Australian broadcaster (Foxtel) for lacking subtitles in the first showing. Since this is not a criticism of Game of Thrones itself, I do not see the relevance to this article. FDW777 (talk) 15:01, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Problem with the intro

I'm a rank newbie to Game of Thrones. I have never watched an episode and never took the time to read the Wikipedia article until now.

As a new comer, I think there is something missing from the intro. (Perhaps the movers and shakers of the article are too close.) Only the second paragraph tries to give a synopsis of the entire series. But this passage doesn't mention any characters, just story arcs. As a newbie, this was unsatisfactory. You don't see how the characters interact with each other or the plot. This is supposed to be a fictional story, not a legal treatise.

Perhaps, we (I really mean you; I don't know any of the storyline) could put in one sentence after each arc, just to show how the characters interact with that part of the story. Sort of like the following. (Words in italics are mine and don't bear any resemblance to what someone who knows a little bit more about GOT would write.)

Set on the fictional continents of Westeros and Essos, Game of Thrones has several plots and a large ensemble cast, but follows three story arcs.

• The first arc is about the Iron Throne of the Seven Kingdoms, and follows a web of alliances and conflicts among the noble dynasties either vying to claim the throne or fighting for independence from it. (I'm making this up.) The King's eldest son Robb swore to avenge his brother, Bran, ...
• The second story arc focuses on the last descendant of the realm's deposed ruling dynasty, who has been exiled and is plotting a return to the throne. Viserys lives in...
• The third story arc follows the Night's Watch, a brotherhood defending the realm against the fierce peoples and legendary creatures of the North. The Night's Watch's leader is...

Or maybe something else. Of course, the characters might be too complex to sum up in a few sentences. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 19:02, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Removing the lead image and adding "plot is too long" tag at Game of Thrones episode articles

TedEdwards has been removing the lead image from Game of Thrones episode articles. He has also been adding the "plot is too long" tag to them. Concerns have been raised that he is doing this indiscriminately. For a centralized discussion on it, per WP:TALKCENT, see Talk:Fire and Blood (Game of Thrones)#Image and tag. Or it can simply be discussed on this talk page. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 07:52, 8 May 2019 (UTC)