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[[Delightful Moomin Family: Adventure Diary]] is basically the second season of this series, I see no reason for a separate article. It could be easily merged here. [[User:Cavarrone|Cavarrone]] ([[User talk:Cavarrone|talk]]) 06:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC) |
[[Delightful Moomin Family: Adventure Diary]] is basically the second season of this series, I see no reason for a separate article. It could be easily merged here. [[User:Cavarrone|Cavarrone]] ([[User talk:Cavarrone|talk]]) 06:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' - [[Delightful Moomin Family: Adventure Diary]] should be merged here. [[User:Neelix|Neelix]] ([[User talk:Neelix|talk]]) 15:51, 14 April 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Support''' - [[Delightful Moomin Family: Adventure Diary]] should be merged here. [[User:Neelix|Neelix]] ([[User talk:Neelix|talk]]) 15:51, 14 April 2012 (UTC) |
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== Voice actor corrections (English) == |
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I've made some corrections to the English voice cast listed on the main page, and have provided some information to back up these changes: |
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Sniff - originally the article listed Peter Woodward as the English voice actor for this character. This appears to be based off the series' IMDb page, where Peter Woodward is listed for providing the character's uncredited voice. However, IMDb is 100% incorrect about Peter Woodward being the voice actor, as he had absolutely no involvement with this series. The actual voice actor for Sniff is one of the credited actors listed in the end credits, Jeff Harding, who also provides the English voice for the Inspector. This can be confirmed through several ways - not only is it audibly the same actor voicing both Sniff and the Inspector upon close inspection (the voices are obviously made to sound different, but the vocal inflections/line deliveries for both characters are the same, and there are a couple of times where the other voice slips through if that makes sense, which give away them both being voiced by the same actor), but Jeff Harding [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnYlEf7-QqQ&list=PLdoKxk4QWg2xo2dGAR-FnNqnAWaCU_vrQ&index=2&t=0s| used the exact same voice for Sniff for the villain in the British dub of Peter No-Tail in Americat, just with a meaner-sounding delivery] (the character first speaks at the 2:40 mark, but skip to 7:30-7:42 for probably the best comparison between this character's voice and Sniff's), and [https://qvoice.co.uk/voice-artists/index.php?profile=jeff-harding also used a variation of the voice in a baseball advert that can be heard on one of his demo reels] (play 'Commercial', skip to 1:22). The IMDb page for this series is somewhat unreliable in parts with the English voice actors, not just because it incorrectly lists Peter Woodward for doing a voice on a series he had no involvement with, but also because it only lists the original group of actors from the first twenty or so episodes, making no mention of the actors who joined the cast later on such as Peter Marinker. Similarly, it wouldn't be the first time IMDb has listed the wrong actor(s) for a role they didn't do - a prime example of this is the English dub of [[Felidae (film)|Felidae]], where IMDb incorrectly lists some high-profile actors for doing the English voices, when in actuality the cast consisted of a small group of London-based voice actors, several of whom actually provided voice work on this series in fact. |
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The Groke - originally the article listed Frank Welker for doing the voice. I'm not sure why Frank Welker was listed as it's clearly not him doing the voice and he had absolutely no involvement with the series, but it's actually Jeff Harding who provides the Groke's voice, or at the very least her one spoken line (like with the previous example, you can hear it's the same actor from the sound of the voice/line delivery). |
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Mymble - originally the article listed Joanna Ruiz as the third English voice actress for Mymble. While Joanna Ruiz was working on the English dub by that point, she never did Mymble's voice - the actress who actually did the voice was Joanne McQuinn. The voice (first heard in the 'Painting a House' episode if I recall correctly) is identical to that of Alicia's second voice, which Joanne McQuinn unmistakably provided. |
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Too-Ticky - originally the article listed three actresses for voicing Too-Ticky, namely Stacey Gregg (aka Stacey Jefferson), Emily Stride (Susan Sheridan's daughter) and Toni Barry. However, Too-Ticky only appeared in a handful of episodes, and in all but one of them she is unmistakably voiced by Stacey Gregg (the one exception is the 'Midwinter Bonfire' episode), so that would mean there were only two actresses for the character in the English dub, not three. As to who voiced Too-Ticky in the remaining episode, several sources ([https://redkingdomrising.wordpress.com/cast/ here] and [http://www.englishtheatre.at/english/about-us/archive/season-201415/dial-m-for-murder/cast/emily-stride.html here]) state that Emily Stride voiced the character, so that would mean it's her in that episode and therefore not Toni Barry (on a side note, there were some uncredited child actors in several episodes of the English dub, so it's possible Emily Stride is one of them). |
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Thingumy and Bob - While Stacy Gregg voiced both characters originally as the article correctly states, they are quite clearly voiced by Joanne McQuinn (Thingumy) and Joanna Ruiz (Bob) in episode 74. |
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Ninny - originally the actress was listed as unknown, but this character was in fact voiced by Stacey Gregg. It's more or less a shier version of Alicia's first voice. |
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Muddler - originally the actor was listed as unknown, but this character was in fact voiced by Jeff Harding. In the character's first appearance his voice sounds noticeably different from what he does in his second and third appearances where he sounds exactly like Sniff, but like with the previous examples with Jeff Harding, the line deliveries/vocal inflections match up with those of the other characters he voices, which would mean it's the same actor across all three episodes. |
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Correctings
- The series has not been broadcasted in Russia.
- The Hemulen`s aunt raises Moomin Papa in the Orphanage in the books. But in this series it`s acctually a Fillijonk who raises him, I know this because I have seen the episodes where Moomin Papa tells the story of his childhood. But before I alter this in the articl, I wonderd if anybody nows if she was Mrs Fillijonk`s aunt?Daninewton (talk) 17:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.54.40.24 (talk) 16:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Does anybody know if...
..."The police Inspector" and "The Park Keeper" is the same character ?
- No they are not. JIP | Talk 19:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Tove Jansson's personal statement "This is not The Moomins"
This needs a citation. There are too many uncited "quotes" - unless a credible cource can be found, I propose deleting that sentence from the article.
Source. is what you were trying to spell.J (talk) 14:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
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When was it shown in Great Britain?
i know it was 1994 or after as i was born in '93 & i remember it form my childhood, it one of those thing you know, but know nothing of... what year & what channel was it shown in/on In Great Britain? put the answer both here & on my page please J (talk) 14:07, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Merger proposal
Delightful Moomin Family: Adventure Diary is basically the second season of this series, I see no reason for a separate article. It could be easily merged here. Cavarrone (talk) 06:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Support - Delightful Moomin Family: Adventure Diary should be merged here. Neelix (talk) 15:51, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Voice actor corrections (English)
I've made some corrections to the English voice cast listed on the main page, and have provided some information to back up these changes:
Sniff - originally the article listed Peter Woodward as the English voice actor for this character. This appears to be based off the series' IMDb page, where Peter Woodward is listed for providing the character's uncredited voice. However, IMDb is 100% incorrect about Peter Woodward being the voice actor, as he had absolutely no involvement with this series. The actual voice actor for Sniff is one of the credited actors listed in the end credits, Jeff Harding, who also provides the English voice for the Inspector. This can be confirmed through several ways - not only is it audibly the same actor voicing both Sniff and the Inspector upon close inspection (the voices are obviously made to sound different, but the vocal inflections/line deliveries for both characters are the same, and there are a couple of times where the other voice slips through if that makes sense, which give away them both being voiced by the same actor), but Jeff Harding used the exact same voice for Sniff for the villain in the British dub of Peter No-Tail in Americat, just with a meaner-sounding delivery (the character first speaks at the 2:40 mark, but skip to 7:30-7:42 for probably the best comparison between this character's voice and Sniff's), and also used a variation of the voice in a baseball advert that can be heard on one of his demo reels (play 'Commercial', skip to 1:22). The IMDb page for this series is somewhat unreliable in parts with the English voice actors, not just because it incorrectly lists Peter Woodward for doing a voice on a series he had no involvement with, but also because it only lists the original group of actors from the first twenty or so episodes, making no mention of the actors who joined the cast later on such as Peter Marinker. Similarly, it wouldn't be the first time IMDb has listed the wrong actor(s) for a role they didn't do - a prime example of this is the English dub of Felidae, where IMDb incorrectly lists some high-profile actors for doing the English voices, when in actuality the cast consisted of a small group of London-based voice actors, several of whom actually provided voice work on this series in fact.
The Groke - originally the article listed Frank Welker for doing the voice. I'm not sure why Frank Welker was listed as it's clearly not him doing the voice and he had absolutely no involvement with the series, but it's actually Jeff Harding who provides the Groke's voice, or at the very least her one spoken line (like with the previous example, you can hear it's the same actor from the sound of the voice/line delivery).
Mymble - originally the article listed Joanna Ruiz as the third English voice actress for Mymble. While Joanna Ruiz was working on the English dub by that point, she never did Mymble's voice - the actress who actually did the voice was Joanne McQuinn. The voice (first heard in the 'Painting a House' episode if I recall correctly) is identical to that of Alicia's second voice, which Joanne McQuinn unmistakably provided.
Too-Ticky - originally the article listed three actresses for voicing Too-Ticky, namely Stacey Gregg (aka Stacey Jefferson), Emily Stride (Susan Sheridan's daughter) and Toni Barry. However, Too-Ticky only appeared in a handful of episodes, and in all but one of them she is unmistakably voiced by Stacey Gregg (the one exception is the 'Midwinter Bonfire' episode), so that would mean there were only two actresses for the character in the English dub, not three. As to who voiced Too-Ticky in the remaining episode, several sources (here and here) state that Emily Stride voiced the character, so that would mean it's her in that episode and therefore not Toni Barry (on a side note, there were some uncredited child actors in several episodes of the English dub, so it's possible Emily Stride is one of them).
Thingumy and Bob - While Stacy Gregg voiced both characters originally as the article correctly states, they are quite clearly voiced by Joanne McQuinn (Thingumy) and Joanna Ruiz (Bob) in episode 74.
Ninny - originally the actress was listed as unknown, but this character was in fact voiced by Stacey Gregg. It's more or less a shier version of Alicia's first voice.
Muddler - originally the actor was listed as unknown, but this character was in fact voiced by Jeff Harding. In the character's first appearance his voice sounds noticeably different from what he does in his second and third appearances where he sounds exactly like Sniff, but like with the previous examples with Jeff Harding, the line deliveries/vocal inflections match up with those of the other characters he voices, which would mean it's the same actor across all three episodes.
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