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"Eolgi" vandal - global lock request?

Howdy, I saw you blocked our good friend the Eolgi vandal (as User:Halloween.eolgi). It looks like they also vandalized eswiki and simplewiki, would you mind requesting a global lock on them on met? I'm not autoconfirmed there on this account so I can't post the request myself. Thanks! ^creffpublic _{a creffett franchise} (talk to the boss) 15:01, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

On it. --Jayron32 15:06, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Refdesk

" Even if what Andy Dingley says above weren't true, "

How about you just get the f*ck off my back? Andy Dingley (talk) 23:21, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley: I think you are misreading that. I literally said what you said was true; the statement was made just to help the OP by providing additional points that needed to be made. That is, what the phrase "Even if..." means here is that "What Andy has said is quite true, but let's put that aside for a minute, and also look at some additional points." I hope that is clearer. --Jayron32 12:59, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

So why even bother saying it? Can you not even agree with me for once without casting aspersions? Andy Dingley (talk) 13:01, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley: It's not an aspersion. I have not cast any aspersions against you, here or elsewhere, at this time or previously. As I explained just now, there was no harm or aspersion meant. You are perfectly, 100% correct in your answer, and at no point did I say that you weren't. I said you were correct, but I provided some additional information to support your correct answer. --Jayron32

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Exploding whale

It is a good article and an asset to the main page. Removing it is just petulant and over reach. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:54, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

It has an unreferenced section. We're not allowed to have unreferenced sections on the main page. Either fix it or stop complaining. --Jayron32 16:58, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Actually, it is no longer unreferenced. You are being punitive. But I will fix it. For now. cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:20, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

There are a dozen items on the list, and you provided a reference for one of them. Fix the rest, and then we can talk about what to do about it after that. --Jayron32 17:23, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

It's all been removed. Long ago ... 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:28, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

So maybe it wasn't just me... --Jayron32 18:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that "Aja" edit

This. I had delinked because the guy who did the last GAR felt it wasn't necessary to link him again since he's linked in the intro just above. I have always felt that just because you link someone in the intro, it doesn't mean you can't link them anywhere else, especially the first mention in the article itself, but I wasn't going to argue the point at that time. Daniel Case (talk) 19:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

I will avoid re-linking if stuff is close together, but WP:OVERLINK says "at the first occurrence after the lead" is allowable for a repeat link. --Jayron32 20:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

apology

Hi I’ve recently realized I was unnecessarily defensive about my knowledge and snippy replying(claiming what you said wasn’t relevant)to you at reference desk about iron atoms and what could replace them in hemoglobin. Ive realized you weren’t implying that I must not have known about the possibility of CO or CN taking the place of oxygen, you were giving interesting and related background, since RD is not just for educating the OP alone. Sorry! Rich (talk) 08:36, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

We all have bad days; don't sweat it. It's all good. Water under the bridge. --Jayron32 12:41, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Proposal for naming the dead

Hi. A couple of years ago I believe it was you who put forth a Village Pump proposal regarding inclusion of names of the dead. I wanted to review it; can you put your finger on it easily? ―Mandruss ☎ 13:20, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

I'll see what I can find. Give me a few minutes to dig around. --Jayron32 13:22, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

@Mandruss: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 150 --Jayron32 13:37, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, sir, and have a wonderful day. ―Mandruss ☎ 13:38, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

@Mandruss: You're quite welcome! Do me a favor, keep me abreast of any new developments in the area. --Jayron32 14:55, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Sure. Well the new development is that we're seeing a high level of support at Talk:Saugus High School shooting for another shot at VP, including from a couple of admins, and admin El C suggested we work up a proposal at that article talk page. I'm working on getting that started and may have something posted within the hour. ―Mandruss ☎ 15:11, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

So after suggesting we do it at that article, El C moved it to VPI. Go figger. ―Mandruss ☎ 16:44, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

I don't have anything to add as yet. I will keep an eye on developments, and chime in when I feel like my input will be useful. --Jayron32 16:52, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Sounds fair. Regarding my comment There are always those comments, but this time they include support for such a guideline from a couple of admins, which is something new., I was speaking on the article talk page specifically about comments on article talk pages in mass shooting events. ―Mandruss ☎ 16:55, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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WP:ANI#About Spshu..

Hi Jayron32. I was going to add something to this ANI, but it's been archived and I'm not sure whether it's OK to add something below the discussion. Anyway, I was just going to point out that this isn't the first questionable ANI that CentralTime301 has started at ANI; he started WP:ANI#The bot that has been removing a photo in a draft... a few days ago.

As stated in that thread, the questionable adding of uw's, etc. by CentralTime301 seems to really be starting to grate on others. In some cases, they uw may be justified, but there seem more mistakes being made than not which is starting to cause problems. Moreover, since CentralTime301 doesn't seem to be responding to any of the concerns being raised by others on their user talk page, it's hard figure out why they are doing such things. At the same time, they haven't veered from their full-speed-ahead attempts to "cleanup" Wikipedia, which is more than likely going to end up in their account being blocked for one reason or another.

Any suggestions on how to help them avoid such a thing? Not sure what else can be done here and hoped that by bringing it up for discussion at WP:ANI#CentralTime301 edits may need a closer review that CentralTime301 might take a bit of time to self-assess and slow things down a bit; it appears, bowever, that opposite has only happened and their user talk page continues to fill up with warnings to be more careful. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:35, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Just going to update that the editor has been blocked for the above and other issues by a different admin. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:58, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Language Ref Desk

Your comment under "Capitalization of Latin titles in English texts" at "Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language" was interesting and helpful, but I'm not sure that pulling out the same pre-canned lecture every time someone asks why something in a language is the way it is accomplishes any very useful purpose... AnonMoos (talk) 23:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't follow? It was the first time I ever brought up the history of capitalization, and it was directly in response to a question asked about the history of capitalizing. I've certainly never brought it up before. Can you clarify what your objection is? --Jayron32 23:51, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I was contrasting two different things, your very helpful answer on capitalization, and your pre-canned lecture on why language change is completely arbitrary and whimsical, which sometimes does not seem to be so helpful. Sorry if there was confusion... AnonMoos (talk) 04:08, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Noting that language change is arbitrary is important when people are looking for answers to the question "why" however. If you want to know "why does this happen", if the answer really is "there is no reason, and here is some more details on why there is no reason..." is a valid answer. Language change does not happen in a predictable manner. Unless you have a source to indicate that it does? Because I've never seen one. --Jayron32 12:16, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Well, there's Sapir's "drift" -- for example, earlier [iː] and [uː] became [aɪ] and [aʊ] in a parallel way in both English and German, but completely separately in the two different languages (cf. ice/Eis and house/Haus).

But anyway, the main point is that when somebody asks "Why does entity X show feature Y in language Z?", then maybe the more useful reply in most cases is to explore the specificities of language Z, rather than to drag out a pre-canned generalized lecture on the arbitrariness and whimsicality of language change... AnonMoos (talk) 04:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Okay. --Jayron32 13:00, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

CESNUR article

Since you recently commented on the RSN thread about an organized related to CESNUR, I'd like to ask you to help review that organization's article here on Wikipedia. In an attempt to comply with the spirit of WP:CANVAS, the same message is being sent to everyone who commented on the thread, and no specific editing-conflict is being referenced: the article could simply benefit from more eyeballs. Feoffer (talk) 23:13, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Anton

Se we've got Anton1982 (talk · contribs) who implies he's the same guy as 81.131.40.58 (talk · contribs). Is there any rule against that? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:22, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

It crossed my mind that Anton edits mostly from an IP, just occasionally while logged in. There's a rule that anyone using multiple accounts is supposed to declare them. The question would be whether that rule applies in a case like this. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:55, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

If he's not trying to hide it or use multiple accounts to violate rules, there's no problem.--Jayron32 20:02, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I don't know what his game is. He made a couple of snippy comments to me on a ref desk (under his IP) and when I responded on his IP talk page, he posted on my talk page under Anton1982 (which I was previously unaware of) and said, "don't ever PM me", whatever that means. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:48, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:48, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

RE: Vote X?

Yes, I'm sure. I've also developed a good sense of his writing style, and I'm surprised you don't recognize it in this case. A single post to the ref desks from one IP address is very much Vote X's MO. The IP address is in London and he frequently posts about London. It's also about that open-ended invitation to debate which is very much his style. Best wishes, --Viennese Waltz 08:10, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I'll file the extra information away. --Jayron32 11:36, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

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Jim David

How did you find those articles about Jim David? I clearly am not as good as I thought I was at google-fu because I went through multiple pages of ‘“Jim David” comedian’ and ‘“Jim David” comedy’ on google and google news and couldn’t find those articles. Any tips would be appreciated, thanks -- Bait30  ^Talk? 22:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Not sure. I used pretty much those and kept hunting. I knew he was around enough that some interviews and reviews and short bios would turn up.--Jayron32 10:12, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

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Damon Runyon's short story "Dancing Dan's Christmas" is a fun read if you have the time. Right from the start it extols the virtues of the hot Tom and Jerry This hot Tom and Jerry is an old-time drink that is once used by one and all in this country to celebrate Christmas with, and in fact it is once so popular that many people think Christmas is invented only to furnish an excuse for hot Tom and Jerry, although of course this is by no means true. No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well J32. MarnetteD|Talk 04:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Obstruction of Congress

I saw that you edited Contempt of Congress to add alternate phrasing "Obstruction of Congress" this morning following President Trump's impeachment yesterday, adding it as an alternate phrasing, but without citation. This appears by its timing to be a response to the impeachment charge against the President, but has no citation associated with it, and while I'm neither a Constitutional scholar nor a legal expert, my suspicion is that if Congress meant to say "contempt", they would have used that word. The construct "Obstruction of Congress" is not necessarily the same as "Contempt of Congress" or else they would have used the more familiar phrase. I think if you're going to establish equivalence between the two phrases, there needs to be some additional explanation supported by external sources that bulwarks this assertion. I'm not grinding an axe one way or the other with regard to the impeachment and impending Senate trial, but I do think that Wikipedia, which will be consulted by many during this process, needs to ensure that any changes to information that bears on this is well-researched and supported. Thank you. Eltrace (talk) 14:28, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Okay. --Jayron32 14:52, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Eltrace (talk) 00:33, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

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Terminator 1984

I thought You remembered the Scene clearly.

Terminator was Loading Bulet but Owner got Mad so he said “U canot Do that”

Terminator said “Wrong” then Terminator Kils Owner.

1. Wat did Terminator do Exactly that caused Owner to say “U canot Do that.”?

2. Y can’t Terminator load Atleast 1 Bulet?(107.77.213.216 (talk) 23:28, 22 December 2019 (UTC)).

I told you. There was a writer. Who wrote the movie. The reason the Terminator did that is that the writer decided they should. That's how fiction works. Fictional characters don't have their own minds. The don't have reasons. They just do what they do because a writer decided it fit the story. --Jayron32 23:50, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

That’s nonsense I’m serious answer my Questions with Corect Answers?

I thought You would say that Owner wanted Terminator to Fill out Required Papers.

So Y did Owner say “You canot do That.”?(107.77.213.216 (talk) 00:09, 23 December 2019 (UTC)).

Because the screen writer put that in the script for the actor to say. --Jayron32 00:55, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Seriously was the Owner teling Arnold to Fill out Papers befor Loading bulets?(76.214.109.69 (talk) 00:59, 23 December 2019 (UTC)).