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Hi, I see you've done edits in the past concerning sporting categories and wanted to ask for your help / advice in combatting some potential problems in this area. |
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I've been tracking vandalism from IP users in the range of addresses [[Special:Contributions/80.233.32.0/20|80.233.32.x-80.233.47.x]]. Most of this has been childish (and offensive) nonsense but I've just found what seems like a longer-term effort of more subtle changes, including adding ever more specific categories to sportspeople and actors. |
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An example is [[Navid Niktash]] who is now the sole member of the categories French expatriate basketball people in Sweden, Iranian expatriate basketball people in Sweden and Iranian expatriate basketball people in France. A list of edits which are mostly of this type from one particular IP is [[Special:Contributions/80.233.37.88]], but I stress that this is non-exhaustive. I do not know yet how may articles are affected or how long this has been going on. In many case, subsequent edits have been made to articles and so the bad edits cannot simply be rolled back. I have little familiarity with most sporting categories, so it isn't always obvious to me which categories should be deleted and which kept. |
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FYI, I have made a [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Persistent_vandalism_from_a_range_of_IPs report at ANI]] about the ongoing problem. Any help appreciated. Thanks. [[User:FrankP|FrankP]] ([[User talk:FrankP|talk]]) 18:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC) |
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Raymundo Deyro
Hi,
I've seen you putting in the Wikipedia information for Raymundo Deyro. He's actually my uncle and I wanted to see if you are related to him also and how. I'm currently working on the Deyro family tree and I'm exploring all areas where I can get information to complete the tree. You can email me at seareigna@yahoo.com. Hope to hear back from you. Thank you. SeaReigna (talk) 16:46, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hi. No relation I'm afraid. I just like to write biographies on tennis players, one of which was your uncle. Sorry to hear that he passed away. Jevansen (talk) 00:18, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Deadnames
Hi, you may not be aware of the evolving guidelines. If you want to discuss the recent undo of your edit, please do take it up at Talk:Natalia_Parés_Vives#Previous_names. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 08:37, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
The Cap Numbers of this article appear to out-of-sync with thessralmanac.com list...
Hi @Jevansen:; the Cap Numbers of this article (List of South Sydney Rabbitohs players) appear to out-of-sync with thessralmanac.com list (List of South Sydney Rabbitohs Premiership First Grade Players), e.g. Paul O'Brien is 613 in the artcile, but 628 ssralmanac.com list. Your thoughts? Best regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 15:06, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
? My last change?
Hi. I didn't leave any message. You said that I wrote a message in Dec 2016!!! about my "last change". I have no idea what you are talking about. Ps. It's September 2019 by the way ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.143.128 (talk) 07:38, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Whoever was assigned your current IP address made a disruptive edit in 2016 and were warned of it at the time. If this wasn't you then just please disregard it. Jevansen (talk) 07:43, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
hahahhaha! I wasn't living here in 2016!!!! You fool! I moved in here to Lancefiled 2 months ago. Fool. As I said...2019 bro! Perhaps you should consider living in the present instead of the past bro. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.183.143.128 (talk) 07:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should consider a lobotomy. As I said ... if this wasn't you, disregard the message. Jevansen (talk) 08:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Running Man Barnstar | |
I, Darwinek, hereby award you this barnstar for your excellent contributions in the area of sport articles, particularly tennis. You fill the gaps that exist on Wikipedia, and that's a tremendous help to the project. - Darwinek (talk) 22:25, 22 September 2019 (UTC) |
Sportspeople categories
Hi Jevansen. I noticed you created recently a bunch of new "Sportspeople from" categories for the Czech Republic and Slovakia. As a member of both WikiProjects, I wanted to express my big thank you for this effort. Could I ask you to create also categories for Sportspeople from Jihlava and Sportspeople from Karlovy Vary? Those are the last remaining Czech regional capitals that don't have their sportspeople categories. Thank you.--Darwinek (talk) 22:25, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, you're most welcome. I'll add Jihlava and Karlovy Vary to my list. Jevansen (talk) 00:10, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
project tagging
is there any particular reason for not adding qualifying projects when tagging ? JarrahTree 10:40, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hey Jarrah, guessing you mean why I don't add all applicable projects when I create the talk page? In most cases, were I to do it this way via AWB it wouldn't be much easier or faster than doing so manually (thus becoming a less attractive task to do en masse). I see you've added some more tags to some of these categories so thanks. Jevansen (talk) 11:12, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fair enough... JarrahTree 13:53, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- As long as you realise that it causes a lot of people to have to follow your edits to fix up and complete - the value of incomplete tagging is... ? JarrahTree 00:46, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- That's ridiculous. Firstly nothing needs fixing. The tagging can be expanded, in the same way a stub article can be built on. Secondly, these people who you say have to follow up these edits are in no worse a position than if the article wasn't tagged in the first place. If anything they have one less tag to add. If you see instances where I have added an inappropriate project tags, let me know, otherwise ... Jevansen (talk) 01:00, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- My sincere apologies, I hadnt realised you had replied. We have very different ideas (nothing needs fixing), but what has evolved since this conversation, is that yes, after considering some issues, indeed, any tagging of any sort is better than none at all. I do think your idea about tagged pages being potentially like a stub page is interesting, but fail to see where that actually occurs in reality - usually it can be up to 5 or 7 years incomplete and never looked at. I am the first one to admit surprise when I re-visit tags that I had done 5 to 8 years ago that I had not completely fixed or really didnt have the right mixes. Pity so few eds are interested, either gone, retired, or lost interest, so on that basis - it is good that someone even gets as far as you have - soldier on! JarrahTree 03:38, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- All good. Happy editing : ) Jevansen (talk) 03:41, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Changing my edits
Please stop changing my edits on Ben Cummins as they are not venderlism and is correct info — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManofWiki123 (talk • contribs) 12:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
University of Mainz versus Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz
You moved the category and re-categorised lots of people. The problem is that the University of Mainz existed from 1477 to 1800ish and the Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz was only opened in 1946. For someone like Andreas Joseph Hofmann, Category:Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz alumni is just wrong, as he died almost a hundred years before that university was created. I think that you should either undo your move or split the category into one for the old university and one for the new university. What do you think? —Kusma (t·c) 19:24, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- (watching:) many universities changed names often, - it may be fair to just use the generic University of Xtown (or: Xtown university) which will be correct for most. Next problem: Folkwang Hochschule - now a university - had four or five names, but only for the last few years was a university, - the category is wrong for most people. What can we do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Kusma, thanks for raising this. I'd suggest splitting them, making Category:University of Mainz alumni a subcategory and assign it to Andreas Joseph Hofmann and others that graduated pre re-opening (I've seen examples of this elsewhere). Both categories would just need to clear description outlining this criteria. Happy to organise that if this is what is decided. Jevansen (talk) 22:03, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Jevansen, I think that for Mainz, where the old university and the new university can be cleanly separated (anyone born after 1810 belongs to the new university, anyone who died before 1945 belongs to the old university, and there is an argument to be made that the old and new universities are truly separate, although people like to pretend there is some continuity), this can work, although we'll end up with a lot of slightly mis-categorised people (editors will naively put a "University of Mainz alumni" on people who recently graduated). In general, I would support the simplest unambiguous name, so I'd probably be happiest with just a single category for "University of Mainz alumni". Looking through Category:Alumni by university or college in Germany, it seems we mostly use the full name only if there is any ambiguity (and then we use the full modern name instead of sorting previous historical names; for example we claim Karl Marx for the HU Berlin, which is slightly anachronistic as the (then only) University of Berlin wasn't named after Humboldt until 1945, but at least this is the correct one of the three universities of modern Berlin). That avoids problems with universities changing names in most cases, and nobody cares whether someone graduated from University of Leipzig or from Karl Marx University, Leipzig. I think Gerda is right -- the generic name is usually best. Also for Mainz, the common name of the University is "University of Mainz", not "Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz", so one could actually argue that the article is not currently titled properly. —Kusma (t·c) 08:20, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interesting. Having also thought about it some more, whether or not there is continuity, we have a single article for "both" universities so they should probably then be treated as the same in the category tree, meaning the one alumni category. While the article remains named as it is we should keep the topic category as Category:Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, but I'll move back the alumni and faculty categories to "University of Mainz". Does that sound ok? Jevansen (talk) 10:09, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should not discuss it just among the three of us, - is there any project responsible? My expert for all category-related questions is Ser Amantio di Nicolao. I'd prefer to have categories for place, faculty and alumni the same, and broad and simple, not one specific name which is the current name but can change tomorrow once a university is named after someone to be honoured. A category article should of course reflect the possibly different names such an institution has had. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- More input would certainly be nice. The Germany project standards WP:GERCON don't say anything about categories, but they do support University of Mainz. The page has been moved a couple of times, it is probably time to settle this via WP:RM. —Kusma (t·c) 19:38, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should not discuss it just among the three of us, - is there any project responsible? My expert for all category-related questions is Ser Amantio di Nicolao. I'd prefer to have categories for place, faculty and alumni the same, and broad and simple, not one specific name which is the current name but can change tomorrow once a university is named after someone to be honoured. A category article should of course reflect the possibly different names such an institution has had. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- Interesting. Having also thought about it some more, whether or not there is continuity, we have a single article for "both" universities so they should probably then be treated as the same in the category tree, meaning the one alumni category. While the article remains named as it is we should keep the topic category as Category:Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, but I'll move back the alumni and faculty categories to "University of Mainz". Does that sound ok? Jevansen (talk) 10:09, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
2007 South Pacific Games
Hi Jevansen, thanks for adding a talk page for the 2007 South Pacific Games logo. The article to which it belongs seems to have been incorrectly renamed some years ago. Could you kindly take a look at perhaps moving it back to 2007 South Pacific Games, which has the South Pacific name on the logo and was the name used for the games? Appreciate it if you can help. -- Ham105 (talk) 11:07, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, just confirming that this has been done. Quite surprising it lasted this long under what was clearly an incorrect name. Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 12:04, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Many thanks --- Ham105 (talk) 13:28, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Transportation breakdown in East Africa (Bollore logistics)
Greetings I am here to report the misconduct of transportation management in East Africa especially Uganda. Bollore Logistics is a leading African clearing and forwarding company that clears almost 90% of the goods imported in Africa and 70% of the Cargo exported out of Africa. So in this case Bollore has a lot of cargo to transport and this should be a profit to the company, but it's very unfortunate that the people in transport management chose to freeze Bollore trucks from carrying cargo and they give the cargo to private transporters. Mr. Anthony Small the operations manager Uganda / Southern Sudan is the man trying to breakdown transport and logistics in Bollore so that he can benefit from hired transporters. Unfortunately he informs our superiors in France that transport in Bollore doesn't work, but this all a lie, he is creating away to make his own money out of transport by hiring cheap transporters. This is my personal email address ltalemwa03@gmail.com and i am writing to notify our superiors about the situation in transport section in East Africa. For any further information in regards to this information, please I am available on this and my mobile number (+254-780-726-756). Thank you very much Bishop kenana (talk) 10:36, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
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{{WikiProject Disambiguation}}
Hello Jevansen. I noticed that you have been systematically adding {{WikiProject Disambiguation}} to the talk pages of disambiguation pages using AWB. Please be aware that you shouldn't be adding this template to talk pages that have no content—see the note at Template:WikiProject Disambiguation#Usage. Thanks. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 02:12, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oh ... wasn't aware of that. I've always added the tags whenever I create a DAB page myself and have been doing so for years. Thanks for letting me know. Jevansen (talk) 02:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
New Page - related to Helmut Veith
Hi! Jobe well done when it comes to the article on Helmut Veith. I am mapping Austrian computer science scene. I have created a new wikipedia article about Vienna Center for Logic and Algorithms, which was co-founded by Helmut Veith (1971-2019). The article is still in review, and it needs editors. Do you know someone who could review the article? Best
alf baccari
if you would like more info on alf, he is my great uncle and was a great man, sadly he passed a few years back just in case you would like to update , he also played professional hockey for the portland thunderbirds, i'm not quite sure what made you wanna make a wikipedia about him but none the less if you need anymore info he had quite the colourful past that judging by this i don't think you know much about him, you can contact me at andrew_q@msn.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.5.88.43 (talk) 22:41, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
have a safe crhistmas season
as the only semblance of a tasmanian editing community all by yourself, I have just watched zeehan pass by... keep safe... JarrahTree 07:51, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- You too JarrahTree, happy holidays. Jevansen (talk) 07:54, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
sheesh, if youre gonna remove all the queensland qualifiers in the queensland project (nsw etc) - just as everyone disappears, you might find that there are some who do not buy into the issue - the whole austrylian project has a very schizoid determination of qualifiers - there are a few eds left on the project, and active even less - there have been arguments in the time that you and I have been on - the current wacthers and inhabitatns of the australian noticeboard may or may not be au fait with the earlier arguments... sheesh, it is like watching the disappearing portals - no one turns up to even make comment. BY rough average - if you look into the places project - I would say less than 20% at a guess have the lone erections to unqualified names - woopwoop - etc - consistency, as a bulk edit person as such might have an appreciation of - does not sit well with some states... surely there is something better to do than follow the fantasies of the low edit single name eds of ten years ago. whatever, have a good one regardless. JarrahTree 09:57, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hey again JT. I have no interest in removing all qualifiers, just the few topic categories which aren't in line with the place's article name. Basic rules of categorisation surely override the preference of the project (given in this case the category trees are already inconsistent as you've said), so happy to answer to any lynch mob. Pretty much done now anyway. Jevansen (talk) 12:28, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thats fine - avoid the police radar - here in wa they on call for double points for all through to january 6th or so
- Hey again JT. I have no interest in removing all qualifiers, just the few topic categories which aren't in line with the place's article name. Basic rules of categorisation surely override the preference of the project (given in this case the category trees are already inconsistent as you've said), so happy to answer to any lynch mob. Pretty much done now anyway. Jevansen (talk) 12:28, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
the police radar and $$$ - that seems more of a concern than what might happen in woop woop and whether its in queensland or not - sure tas has its version :) JarrahTree 12:32, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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Category:English cricket commentators has been nominated for discussion
Category:English cricket commentators, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 22:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Ameer Jackson professional basketball player
Hello Sir , My name Is Ameer Jackson I am professional basketball Player, recently played in Qatar where Franklin Sessions was at as well in the Qatari league , I was the number 1 scorer there , I have links and personal information to share with you as well , I have seen you made a edit to player bio for my fried Franklin Sessions , I was wondering if you could help me out with one as well ? I can provide links , stats , my college everything. You will need to do so if you can sir . This would be gratefully appropriated because of a lot of pieole are trying to use me and my identity as number 1 scorer in Qatar and I know this can help me out a lot with all my social media platforms and also my name as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaeFguynn (talk • contribs) 20:49, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Ameer. If you have a read of WP:NBASKETBALL, we have pretty strict guidelines as to which basketball players qualify for their own article. Unfortunately appearances in the Qatar league (regardless of performance) don't seem to meet the threshold. Best of luck with your career. Jevansen (talk) 21:28, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
Hello Jevansen: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Everedux (talk) 20:33, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
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Trevor Graham
Hello Jevansen why are you continuing with your races act against Trevor Graham. Trevor Graham Due process rights was seriously violated by the USOC and USADA. Tell the story right bout what took place with Mr Graham or cut the races crap Mrtego (talk) 23:12, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Mrtego. I have no idea who Trevor Graham is, all I know is that the edits were unsourced and non neutral. Wikipedia is not the place to right great wrongs. I did google "Trevor Graham" and "due process" and found this source which says the lawsuit alleging this was dismissed. So your edits are also contrary to sources. Jevansen (talk) 23:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- Jevansen this is the True story about Mr Graham be careful not to destroy another mans life 2600:1700:7C0:19C0:DDF0:4A26:4382:F9E6 (talk) 23:55, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
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Categories for sportspeople
Hi, I see you've done edits in the past concerning sporting categories and wanted to ask for your help / advice in combatting some potential problems in this area.
I've been tracking vandalism from IP users in the range of addresses 80.233.32.x-80.233.47.x. Most of this has been childish (and offensive) nonsense but I've just found what seems like a longer-term effort of more subtle changes, including adding ever more specific categories to sportspeople and actors.
An example is Navid Niktash who is now the sole member of the categories French expatriate basketball people in Sweden, Iranian expatriate basketball people in Sweden and Iranian expatriate basketball people in France. A list of edits which are mostly of this type from one particular IP is Special:Contributions/80.233.37.88, but I stress that this is non-exhaustive. I do not know yet how may articles are affected or how long this has been going on. In many case, subsequent edits have been made to articles and so the bad edits cannot simply be rolled back. I have little familiarity with most sporting categories, so it isn't always obvious to me which categories should be deleted and which kept.
FYI, I have made a Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Persistent_vandalism_from_a_range_of_IPs report at ANI about the ongoing problem. Any help appreciated. Thanks. FrankP (talk) 18:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC)