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:Also, you don't see the top of the [[Africa]] article stating, "Not to be confused with South Africa." [[User:Flyer22 Reborn|Flyer22 Reborn]] ([[User talk:Flyer22 Reborn|talk]]) 23:40, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
:Also, you don't see the top of the [[Africa]] article stating, "Not to be confused with South Africa." [[User:Flyer22 Reborn|Flyer22 Reborn]] ([[User talk:Flyer22 Reborn|talk]]) 23:40, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

== Obama as an African American? ==

Second sentence in this article:"The phrase generally refers to descendants of enslaved black people who are from the United States.[7][8][9]"

Last sentence in the lead section. In 2008, Barack Obama became the first African American to be elected President of the United States.[18]

Obama is not a descendant of an enslaved black person. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:209.148.77.6|209.148.77.6]] ([[User talk:209.148.77.6#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/209.148.77.6|contribs]]) </small>

:As you say, the second sentence says "generally". What we care about is what reliable sources say about him. Not editors' interpretations like yours. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 17:50, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

:See [[Talk:African Americans/Archive 23#Obama Contradiction]] and [[Talk:African Americans/Archive 23#Obama Contradiction]]. [[User:Flyer22 Frozen|Flyer22 Frozen]] ([[User talk:Flyer22 Frozen|talk]]) 01:14, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

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Previous discussions concerning the infobox in the top right corner of the article can be found at Talk:African Americans/summary.

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 May 2019 and 24 August 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Magnifique617 (article contribs).


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Suggestion to improve -- controversy over validity of term

I think you should possibly consider adding a section that at least mentions this term "African American" being used as a blanket term for all black people could potentially be considered offensive to those who are black or African, but not American.

Likewise the inference that the only "true blacks" are the descendants of former slaves, which could equally be considered offensive to those not included in that group and also not from the designated geographic region.

Plus the lack of recognition that some descendants of former slaves may have long ago left the American continent, that not all slaves in the United States were of African descent, and so on. Also that not all Africans are black. In fact not even all "blacks" are black. Most of those living in the US don't even come close to being genuinely black (in the chromatic sense).

หมีขั้วโลก (talk) 20:37, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

People who are unfamiliar with with American racial classification...

... may be unaware that "Africa" and "South Africa" are not the same. @Flyer22 Reborn: --Prisencolin (talk) 23:08, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No need to ping me to a talk page I'm obviously watching. I reverted you here and here because, like I stated with the first revert, the lead states that the definition of "African American" encompasses "any of the black racial groups of Africa." The lead sentence of the South Africa article states, "South Africa, officially the Republic of South Africa (RSA), is the southernmost country in Africa." So I asked you, "How are you distinguishing?" What WP:Reliable sources state that South African Americans are not included in the definition of African Americans? I also pointed you to Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Hatnotes and its usage guidelines with my second revert. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:18, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Also, you don't see the top of the Africa article stating, "Not to be confused with South Africa." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:40, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]