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White Pride, like any other sense of pride, is a term used by the Caucasian race to describe the sense of accomplishments pertaining to the development of society, technology, economy etc. [1] Jason Knowles (talk) 05:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done - A dictionary definition of "pride" has no relevance to the commonly understood (and properly sourced) definition of "white pride". - MrX 🖋 11:21, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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please add that “white pride” saying is used by some Racist groups that are specifically against white peoples Showing that they can not be proud of their heritage because people that are not white will not let them. 2600:1008:B022:5757:CB1:D224:3536:42CC (talk) 14:03, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not without sources meeting WP:RS. Doug Weller talk 14:33, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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White pride, or white power, is an expression primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints.^[1]^[2] It is also a slogan used by the prominent post-Ku Klux Klan group Stormfront and a term used to make racist/racialist viewpoints more palatable to the general public who may associate historical abuses with the terms white nationalist, neo-Nazi, and white supremacist.

Addendum: "White pride" may have at one time been considered racist verbiage in today's society it is being used more as a defensive language as pertains to European or Western Culture. As we see with other forms of pride such as Black pride or LGBT Pride, we see that it should not be racist to also take pride in one's own anglo or "White" heritage. For if all races are to be equal then we all should be able to share the joy of our own unique culture and background without backlash. Notice also the exclusion of the word "Power" just like Black Power or any other form of Race(Power) it is to its root a racist and supremacist term. Theologian.Augustine (talk) 19:43, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Van McVey, Sarah (2008). Race, Gender, and the Contemporary White Supremacy Movement: The Intersection of "isms" and Organized Racist Groups. ProQuest.
^ Gabriel, John (4 January 2002). Whitewash: Racialized Politics and the Media. Routledge. pp. 5–. ISBN 978-1-134-75016-0.

Not done: You will need to a) provide reliable sources, b) provide a suitable edit in an 'from X to Y' format, and c) establish WP:CONSENSUS for this change first. Best, Darren-M talk 21:02, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We have discussed this repeatedly. The article reflects what independent reliable sources say about the slogan. Please review the FAQ at the top of this page, the rest of the talk page and the archives for further information. - SummerPhD^v2.0 21:04, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The start of the article incorrectly states that "White pride, or white power, is an expression primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints. It is also a slogan used by the prominent post-Ku Klux Klan group Stormfront and a term used to make racist/racialist viewpoints more palatable to the general public who may associate historical abuses with the terms white nationalist, neo-Nazi, and white supremacist."

This should be changed to "White pride is an expression primarily used by white people to refer to the pride they have in their heritage. The idea of white pride is often mistaken to have racist undertones due to groups such as the post-Ku Klux Klan group Stormfront. However, their views are not representative of the majority of law abiding white people who profess to have white pride." 95.151.234.111 (talk) 08:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done The idea of white pride is literally "golly, ain't it wonderful to not be one of them minorities?" It is inherently a white supremacist idea. If you do not see yourself as a racist, you need to rethink your life and confront some assumptions you were programmed with. It's going to be uncomfortable but you'll be a better person for doing so. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:59, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

" If you do not see yourself as a racist, you need to rethink your life " - No personal attacks. RandomUser3510 (talk) 12:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Van McVey, Sarah (2008). Race, Gender, and the Contemporary White Supremacy Movement: The Intersection of "isms" and Organized Racist Groups. ProQuest.

[Gabriel2002-2] Gabriel, John (4 January 2002). Whitewash: Racialized Politics and the Media. Routledge. pp. 5–. ISBN 978-1-134-75016-0.

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 "White pride is an expression primarily used by white people to refer to the pride they have in their heritage. The idea of white pride is often mistaken to have racist undertones due to groups such as the post-Ku Klux Klan group Stormfront. However, their views are not representative of the majority of law abiding white people who profess to have white pride." [[Special:Contributions/95.151.234.111|95.151.234.111]] ([[User talk:95.151.234.111|talk]]) 08:55, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 :{{not done}} The idea of white pride is literally "golly, ain't it wonderful to not be one of them minorities?"  It is inherently a white supremacist idea.  If you do not see yourself as a racist, you need to rethink your life and confront some assumptions you were programmed with.  It's going to be uncomfortable but you'll be a better person for doing so.  [[User:Ian.thomson|Ian.thomson]] ([[User talk:Ian.thomson|talk]]) 09:59, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
+::" If you do not see yourself as a racist, you need to rethink your life " - No [[Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks|personal attacks]]. [[User:RandomUser3510|RandomUser3510]] ([[User talk:RandomUser3510|talk]]) 12:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)