Talk:Shining Force

OK, explain to me what the point was of removing that huge "novelization" of pretty much the entire game, and replacing them with "THIS BATTLE HAPPENS AND THIS IS WHO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DEFEAT".

-H Hog

While it wasn't me who did the edit, after thinking it over, its arguable whether the story of the entire game should be there. Similar to how you might not give an overview of an entire book on the encyclopedia page of a book. That's my 2 cents.

By the way, to get your name and time stamp at the end of a talk just type in 4 "~"s in a row. Dross82 17:26, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Spoilers

This article seems a big spoiler of the game

What is the point telling all the things (including secret characters) a game has?

--Diego 16:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, in my opinion, to be honest... there's not much spoiling to be done about a game that first appeared over a decade ago. As for what the point is... well, you might as well start asking what the point is to maintain an online encyclopedia in the first place. (Spoiler: the answer is "to inform people".) ;) H Hog 18:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

This article is pretty weird, what is going on here? Aardark 09:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

An entirely-too-detailed character list, I think. Nifboy 18:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Ken's description (and other characters, for that matter)

The extra entry at the end of Ken's character description seems unnecessary and superfluous to Wikipedia--not to mention biased (I changed it from "horrible" to "weaker" to reduce this). Anyone think the entire addition should just be removed? It's the following:

"In the Megadrive/Genesis version, he is extremely useful because of his incredible HP, and still quite good later on, even though his other stats are only useless; however, his stat growths have been significantly changed in the GBA version, making him a weaker character."

I feel most other character descriptions may need some touch-up as well.

Since Wikipedia is not a strategy guide, I would venture to say that covers character stats as well. Nifboy 19:21, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Especially because stats in this game are very random to be able to make definite statements. Depending on the leveling, characters can end up quite differently on each playthrough. This is overall just a biased article and will have to have some major reworking. Stallyn 16:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

The character section is horribly POV and needs a lot of work. I'm not sure we need the animated portraits either. Any objections to getting rid of them? NighTrekr 00:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

The Original Game

There is alot of information that deviates widely from the Genesis/Megadrive version of the game that is included due to a remake. I think the remake should have a different page and this should be devoted purely to "The Legacy of Great Intention."

No money loss after defeat?

Currently the article states: "Since you always carry the EXP. and money gained, regardless of the battle outcome, the game is considerably easier than most strategy RPGs."

Unfortunately I don't know for certain what it is like in Shining Force, but I do know that in Shining Force II, you lose 50 % of your money if you lose a battle! Somebody please check if this also applies to Shining Force, and if so, change the article accordingly.

You do lose 50% of your gold when Max is killed. It is the way of the universe. -- 12.175.230.58 03:13, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Extensive edits needed

This article is a mess. It's crawling with weasley, POV statements and judgements about the game, the plot and character sections are unnecessarily lengthy and there's far too much gameplay information. I think at the very least we should trim the plot section down to a few paragraphs per chapter (none of this battle-by-battle stuff) and cut down the character info to a general description (removing the stats and spells). It's going to take a lot of editing. Thoughts? NighTrekr 01:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

 Yes, I believe this article needs some reworking. And, some of the writing feels a bit weak. An example would be the end of the first paragraph:

"As the people have forgotten about him, they are unprepared for the invasion. Hordes of evil monsters were cast into the land. Max and his "Shining Force" are going to become the last hope of good and fight fiercely against Dark Dragon and his followers" I don't know if it's just me, but the sentences sound rather fragmented. Some minor punctuation errors, too (such as a lack of a period at the end, and a comma after "Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon"). There also have been some recent comments about the character section, and the battle-by-battle explanation of the story. So yes, this needs a lot of editing.