User talk:Anair13

A belated welcome!

Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, Anair13! I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may still benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! Opabinia regalis (talk) 03:38, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tsutchie

Thank you for your work on Tsutchie.

You have added an infobox to the page, it does not have sufficient information. Please view https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_musical_artist_with_missing_or_invalid_Background_field and add the needful background information. Thank you. --Whiteguru (talk) 07:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tsutchie moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Tsutchie, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Mccapra (talk) 19:49, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Mccapra, I can work on it but I am not sure if there are really many more sources available. I created the page because the article Shakkazombie awkwardly shoehorns Tshuchie's solo work and career into the article about the group, when in fact he has done some major work (with somewhat of a cult following) outside the group. Anair13 (talk) 20:46, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You might be more successful by doing 2 things: 1. Make "Tsutchie" a redirect page to Shakkazombie. 2. Expand the details of Tsutchie on that page. I suspect that will be successful and anyone looking up Tsutchie will not be disappointed.Mwinog2777 (talk) 19:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Katie Benner

I object to the removal of the "good faith" "Personal" section. Several wiki protocols were violated.

The section was described as opinionated, essentially describing the editor of that section of bad faith. You need you justify this, and show "clear evidence" of such.

You did not follow any normal protocol or discuss with any party before deleting.

"When you find a passage in an article that is biased, inaccurate, or unsourced the best practice is to improve it if you can rather than deleting salvageable text." And, "be prepared to justify your changes to other editors on the talk page."

Perhaps Dispute Resolution Noticeboard (DRN), or open a request for arbitration, if we fail.

Over 80000 visits to the page in past 4 months, and you are the only editor who wishes to delete the text. 79999 have seemed to not mind.

You should demonstrate your good faith by "productively participating" in some form of resolution. ThanxMwinog2777 (talk) 19:02, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accusing others of bad faith[edit][edit]

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WP:AOBF

Avoid accusing other editors of bad faith without clear evidence in the form of diffs. Making such claims often serves no purpose and could be seen as inflammatory and hence aggravate a dispute. Without clear evidence that the action of another editor is actually in bad faith or harassment, repeatedly alleging bad faith motives could be construed as a personal attack. The result could be accusations of bad faith on your part, which tends to create a nasty cycle of unhelpful accusations and counter-accusations.

Follow the normal protocol[edit][edit]

When you find a passage in an article that is biased, inaccurate, or unsourced the best practice is to improve it if you can rather than deleting salvageable text. For example, if an article appears biased, add balancing material or make the wording more neutral. Include citations for any material you add. If you do not know how to fix a problem, ask for help on the talk page.

To help other editors understand the reasoning behind your edits, always explain your changes in the edit summary. If an edit is too complex to explain in an edit summary, or the change is contentious, add a section to the talk page that explains your rationale. Be prepared to justify your changes to other editors on the talk page. If you are reverted, continue to explain yourself; do not start an edit war.

Discuss with the other party[edit][edit]

Graham's hierarchy of disagreement: Aim at the top during disputes. Further information: Wikipedia:Negotiation

Talking to other parties is not a mere formality, but an integral part of writing the encyclopedia. Discussing heatedly or poorly – or not at all – will make other editors less sympathetic to your position, and prevent you from effectively using later stages in dispute resolution. Sustained discussion between the parties, even if not immediately successful, demonstrates your good faith and shows you are trying to reach a consensus. Try negotiating a truce or proposing a compromise through negotiation.

Do not continue edit warring; once sustained discussion begins, productively participating in it is a priority. Uninvolved editors who are invited to join a dispute will likely be confused and alarmed if there are large numbers of reverts or edits made while discussion is ongoing.

Talk page discussion is a prerequisite to almost all of Wikipedia's venues of higher dispute resolution. If you wish at any time to request a Third Opinion (3O), use the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard (DRN), or open a request for arbitration, you will be expected to show there has been talk page discussion of the dispute. Actual discussion is needed; discussion conducted entirely through edit summaries is inadequate. Requests for Comment generally require that at least an effort be made to discuss the matter in question before making the request.

@Mwinog2777: Sorry about that, I've started a discussion in the talk page.Anair13 (talk) 06:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]