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Pastafarianism?

Surely the inclusion of Pastafarianism is not a valid entry, as it is a satirical/spoof religion designed to draw attention to flaws in other faiths? Isn't the defining factor that Pastafarianism is not designed to be followed sincerely - nobody actually REALLY believes in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, do they? If it's not a religion, it's (at best) a philosophy, and therefore should it be here? Any thoughts? User:JulesVerne (User talk:JulesVerne) 10:55, 18 December 2008 (GMT)

No? I'm removing it, in that case. User:JulesVerne (User talk:JulesVerne) 11:14, 27 December 2008 (GMT)

Dates of Vedas and Puranas, and the Authors

VEDAS : The Vedas are among the oldest sacred texts. The Samhitas date to roughly 1500–1000 BCE, and the "circum-Vedic" texts, as well as the redaction of the Samhitas, date to c. 1000-500 BCE, resulting in a Vedic period, spanning the mid 2nd to mid 1st millennium BCE, or the Late Bronze Age and the Iron Age.[1]

Michael Witzel gives a time span of c. 1500 BCE to c. 500-400 BCE. Witzel makes special reference to the Near Eastern Mitanni material of the 14th c. BCE the only epigraphic record of Indo-Aryan contemporary to the Rigvedic period. He gives 150 BCE (Patañjali) as a terminus ante quem for all Vedic Sanskrit literature, and 1200 BCE (the early Iron Age) as terminus post quem for the Atharvaveda.[2]

Transmission of texts in the Vedic period was by oral tradition alone, preserved with precision with the help of elaborate mnemonic techniques. A literary tradition set in only in post-Vedic times, after the rise of Buddhism in the Maurya period, perhaps earliest in the Kanva recension of the Yajurveda about the 1st century BCE; however oral tradition predominated until c. 1000 CE.[3]

Rig Veda manuscripts have been selected for inscription in UNESCO's "Memory of the World" Register 2007.[4]

PURANAS : Vyasa, the narrator of the Mahabharata, is traditionally considered the compiler of the Puranas.[5] However, the earliest written versions date from the time of the Gupta Empire (third-fifth century CE) and much material may be dated, through historical references and other means, to this period and the succeeding centuries.

The date of the production of the written texts does not define the date of origin of the Puranas.[6] On one hand, they existed in some oral form before being written[6] while at the same time, they have been incrementally modified well into the 16th century.[6][7]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tellasitis (talk • contribs) 04:01, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Gavin Flood sums up mainstream estimates, according to which the Rigveda was compiled from as early as 1500 BCE over a period of several centuries. Flood 1996, p. 37
  2. ^ Witzel, Michael, "Vedas and Upaniṣads", in: Flood 2003, p. 68
  3. ^ For the possibility of written texts during the first century BCE see: Witzel, Michael, "Vedas and Upaniṣads", in: Flood 2003, p. 69; For oral composition and oral transmission for "many hundreds of years" before being written down, see: Avari 2007, p. 76.
  4. ^ http://hinduism.about.com/od/scripturesepics/a/rigveda.htm
  5. ^ The Puranas by Swami Sivananda
  6. ^ a b c Johnson 2009, p. 247
  7. ^ Singh 1997, p. 2324

Nebuchadnezzar II didn't establish Marduk, Hammurabi did

That needs to be changed in the list, Nebuchadnezzar II merely continued the same traditions from before, which were established by Hammurabi, creator of the law code an Amorite who founded the Babylonian empire. The most Nebuchadnezzar II did was re-establish, but I don't think that's what this list is all about. Someone should change it or I will at a later time. Themetacognologist (talk) 19:43, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Judaism

There is no evidence that zoroastenism Influenced second Temple Judaism..its just theory because Both having jews and Persian relation in exile, Give145 (talk) 17:49, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shaykism

Shaykism is listed as Islamic by its article. I am not sure if would qualify as a "major denomination" for this list. Elizium23 (talk) 11:47, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zoroaster

Shouldn't he be considered "semi-historical" in the same way we treat Abraham? Both are not confirmed outside religious sources. Of course we know there has to be an individual who came up with the idea of worshipping a single God. 83.11.2.22 (talk) 19:13, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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