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The statement "A hamburger is a sandwich" is a seriously contested assertion
@Vaselineeeeeeee: The idea of a hamburger being a type of sandwich is not something that should be presented as an established fact. The histories of both the hamburger and the sandwich are unclear at best and there is no direct indication that one was derived from the other. Therefore, I maintain that the uncontroversial and factual statement, "a hamburger is a food" should be used in the summary of what a hamburger is instead of describing it as a sandwich. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardkazuo (talk • contribs) 15:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Richardkazuo: Your ping wouldn't have worked since you didn't sign. But Wikipedia ultimately operates by what is supported by reliable secondary sources not editor's points of view. To be fair, this point isn't as well cited in this article as I would like, but I think it's clear from other articles like sandwich. Note that you're confusing different things. Shared history and whether one was derived from the other is besides the point. There's a reasonable chance quite a few sandwiches have are not derived from and share little history with other types of sandwiches. The issue is instead one of definition of the culinary term sandwich, and the common overreaching definition is one that includes burgers. Note that I come from NZ where the term sandwich is generally far more restrictive and definitely few people call an Original Recipe or Zinger Burger or a McChicken or a BK Chicken etc as "chicken sandwiches", they are burgers. However I can appreciate that ultimately a definition of sandwich which includes burgers is the one which is most well accepted and makes most sense. Nil Einne (talk) 07:54, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Otto Krause, not Otto Kuasw
The years pass, and Wikipedia is still spreading bullshit. Nobody cares to correct this obvious typo - and I cannot do it, as the page is semiprotected.. 79.7.112.133 (talk) 10:47, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There exist pre-Wikipedia sources that say "Kuase" [1][2] but no sources that say "Krause". This could very well be based on some typo someone made in the 20th century, but you would have to point to some sources saying "Krause". – Thjarkur(talk)11:56, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
