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Season still in progress

Hi, I have a (probably pointless) question: which is the most correct format for the asterisk in the 'Season still in progress' tag? I remember that in the past, the tag's code was usually added as <nowiki>*</nowiki> Season still in progress., while I have used (in motorcycle racing biographies only)  * Season still in progress. and lately tried {{asterisk}} Season still in progress. in order not to trigger the 'nowiki added' edit tag unnecessarily. Now it seems that the format has shifted to <sup>*</sup> Season still in progress. but I don't know if there was any discussion on the matter. I think that the symbol put within the sup markup (^*) becomes smaller and less recognisable as an asterisk, but maybe it's only my opinion. Best regards, –Gpmat (talk) 15:06, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Gpmat, I think the most widely used format for the 'Season still in progress' tag is <nowiki>*</nowiki> Season still in progress. I have noticed some of them being changed recently to <sup>*</sup> Season still in progress., but agree with you that it makes the asterisk smaller and less recognisable. I have seen some of those changes reverted by other editors with an edit summary that "an asterisk doesn't need {{sup}} because it's already a superscript character." I quite like the idea of using {{asterisk}} Season still in progress. in order not to trigger the 'nowiki added' edit tag unnecessarily. There was a discussion back in 2016 about the wording of the tag, but I'm not aware of any discussion about the formatting of the asterisk. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 23:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Meanwhile I have given up replacing sup tags with alternative code as motorcycle (and, to a lesser extent, car) racing articles have been targeted for several months by an Indonesian write-only dynamic IP user (currently 180.244.x.x) who has apparently 'decided' that sup is the right way and would anyway re-add those tags at the earliest opportunity. Best regards, --Gpmat (talk) 15:50, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Infobox racing driver

Hi DH, when a driver currently competes in more than one series, do ou know if there's a way of adapting the 'current series' param to show this. The template doc doesn't seem to indicate the possibilty and some experimentation hasn't been succesful. It can't be that rare an occurrence, I wouldn't have thought. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 01:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

@Eagleash: I think the easiest way is probably to embed another copy of Infobox racing driver as a module - see my sandbox for an example. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 08:49, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I was afraid of that. I'm trying to help out a new editor and apparently, this particular driver is involved in five different series currently. I might try it in a s/bx but it would probably result in excessive markup and look a bit unwieldy. I'm not sure any of them pass NMOTORSPORT but still... Thanks though. Eagleash (talk) 10:51, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

ATS

Re [1], it looks like this was more complex than I thought. We seem to have Auto Technisches Spezialzubehör (Q784953) and ATS F1 (Q172162), as well as Category:ATS Wheels Formula One drivers (Q7943229). Can you match the correct dewp article against the article here, please? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:31, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mike Peel, German Wikipedia is a bit unusual in that it has separate articles for the wheel manufacturer and racing team, whereas most other Wikipedias just have one article covering both topics. Since the English Wikipedia article is mostly about the Formula One team, I think it's correct that both the English Wikipedia article (ATS Wheels) and the German Wikipedia article about the racing team link to ATS F1 (Q172162). I guess there's a question of whether we need both Auto Technisches Spezialzubehör (Q784953) and ATS F1 (Q172162), or whether both German Wikipedia articles could link to ATS F1 (Q172162) (can multiple articles from the same Wikipedia link to a single Wikidata item?) and we could get rid of Auto Technisches Spezialzubehör (Q784953). I hope this helps. DH85868993 (talk) 09:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the background! I've ended up moving the sitelink here to Auto Technisches Spezialzubehör (Q784953) (and I've proposed that it is split into separate articles on the company and the F1 team), and updating ATS F1 (Q172162) with a new category at Commons:Category:ATS (F1). Hopefully everything looks OK now. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:39, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

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Excuse me sir/madamn, would it not make sense to also include the World Championship driver stats? Or perhaps that is on a different page?

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.153.217.126 (talk) 05:04, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi 12.153.217.126. Some readers may find that information useful, however the Formula One WikiProject's standard format for constructor results only includes the constructor's points and position in the constructors' championship. You are welcome to start a discussion at the Formula One WikiProject's discussion page. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 05:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

adn

en la parte blanco adn dice todavia no llego, esa info esta desactualizada, el resultado es positivo. fuente web diario local art. gps de caseros . saludos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.166.193.89 (talk) 13:10, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi 181.166.193.89. Unfortunately I don't speak Portuguese, so I couldn't exactly understand the text you added to the template (or your message above) - I got a rough idea from Google Translate, but it wasn't 100% clear. Regardless, this is the English Wikipedia, so all the text in the template should be in English, so I have removed the text you added. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 20:58, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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Whoops. Fixed. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 06:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

WP:INFOBOXFLAG F1 exemption

Gooday. Many years ago I was informed of a local consensus that decided F1 drivers would be exempt, and flags could be displayed; I don't think it was ever pointed to, or whom informed me. Would you (or any tps) be able to assist in locating the archived discussion? Ongoing problems with IPs and new users have prompted this, with one complaining that F1 drivers setting fastest laps at circuit-articles should be allowed. Thanks.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rocknrollmancer. I don't recall any discussions which specifically mentioned the use of flags for drivers setting fastest laps in circuit articles (I think that convention just sort of "happened"). However:

here is a WT:F1 discussion from June 2009 regarding the use of flags for drivers in classification tables, and
here is one from December 2010 which seems to resolve in favour of (the existing convention of) using flags in F1 driver infoboxes.

I'm happy to do some more searching if this isn't what you need, noting that searching for "flags" in the WT:F1 archive turns up dozens of discussions, but many/most of these are related to which flags to use next to race names (e.g. which flag to use for the San Marino Grand Prix) as opposed to using flags next to driver names. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 22:31, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts - I'll digest it further in due course, and look for the first instance when I was likely informed, starting with 2014. I sort-of surmised a more-formal discussion, such as RfC. Part of the problem is that I removed some flags but left Lewis Hamilton's union flag as I was unsure, where a new editor has been adding fastest laps and layouts to circuits. Someone then removed the union flag, with the new editor re-adding it, thinking I was right in the first place whereas I was erring on the side of caution. Also trying to add absolute lap record from outside of a race.

Flags are regularly added in motorcycle racing articles, often from far-eastern IPs. The guidelines state that text should accompany flags outside of infoboxes as people can't know them, and I don't see why the far-easterners should assume everyone would recognise the colours and designs. I get these two mixed up , but I know this . I know the saltire , but not . I know and but not . Maybe half a dozen, that's about it. b rgds.

--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 00:07, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I've now confirmed it was Bretonbanquet who first informed me of the F1 local consensus; I've now located the F1 poll at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons/Archive 14#Formula 1 where you contributed - only glanced at it as yet, being extensive, but I'll look at it further whenever I can. Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons has recent similar concerns. Many thanks.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 01:00, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

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