Talk:Jat Muslim
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Experimental reformatting
I have been bold and reformatted one section into what I believe to be a more legible and user friendly format. I will check back here for comments. If there are no adverse comments I will gradually work through the article performing the same task. of course someone else is welcome to do this as well, or in my place Fiddle Faddle (talk) 15:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- All done. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 11:58, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Intermarriages
The Muslims that came to Muslim empire through conversion and conquest in South Asia intermarried with local Muslims. Many Muslim ruler married princes from local dynasties. The foriegn Muslim nobles and other families settled and intermarried with local Jats and Rajput Muslim families. In Islam, there is no taboo about marrying out of ones class or even one limiting your marriage to one girl. Jat Muslims have married other Muslims and many other Muslims married into Muslim Jats and became part of Muslim Jat community.AlphaGamma1991 (talk) 12:34, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
roma
this whole connection with romas and jats is actually a propaganda by a certain editor against Jat people. romas have indian dna as do the jats they are not just related to jats. you will not find this editor stating that romas are related to other indian communities like brahmans or ramgharias or khatris instead he has chosen to malign the jat people. its a shame when people bring their personal bigotry into historical articles.--92.15.228.243 (talk) 23:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Conversion of the Jats to Islam????
Conversion of the Jats to Islam section is all propaganda without any credible source or verified refrence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.21.182.12 (talk) 07:54, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
- read the book chachnama. it states that the buddhist priests of the Jats had prophesied and army coming to relive them from oppression of raja dahir and it would be right to conclude that many Jats also accepted the relgion of those that were prophesied to help them as they joined the armies of the Arabs. its logical. there is another reference in a persian book which i have read and will find that Arabs who stayed in Sindh became part of certain Jat tribes which is again proof that these Jats had accepted Islam and intermarried with Arabs.--92.15.154.144 (talk) 03:01, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- Also in the Punjab gazetteers of the British many western Punjabi Jatts claim conversion to Islam at hands of Sufi saints like Baba Fareed Ganjshakar. --92.15.154.144 (talk) 03:09, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Muley Jatt information not valid
Only a small percentage of jaats in haryana are titled or rather mocked as 'muley jatts' and to the vast majority of jatts from punjab and sindh this term is non-existent hence i removed 'muley jatt' as it is used as an insult and is irrelevant to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.55.92 (talk) 17:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Almost total lack of citations
The various clans are not cited as being Jat clans. The almost complete lack of citations, flagged for several months, needs to be addressed. Uncited material will be removed as part of Wikipedia's policies and procedures. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 18:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Removal of the list of jats section
I have removed the list of Jats from the article for several reasons:
- The list is a duplicate of the information contained in the linked articles in the section which preceded it
- The list was almost entirely unreferenced
- This article is not a list article anyway (and the lists exist elsewhere)
Fiddle Faddle (talk) 19:14, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
JAT vs JATT
Jat are a tribe of daljit people and can be Muslim (Ones in Pakistan), Sikh (Chamar, tribe in Gujarat..etc), or Hindu Jatt is a caste and are only Sikh They both have different heritage and lineage, the Jatt originated from invaders and upper caste hindus, the Jat were breeders...etc and were labeled Sudra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nursingxmajor (talk • contribs) 21:28, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
- You said more or less the same a few days ago, here at Talk:Jat people. I replied to you and you have not bothered to take it any further. - Sitush (talk) 23:29, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Jats of Sindh article redired to this article
References for Jats of Sindh
Here I'shall provide the references for Jats of Sindh , and when there will be more references , I shall restore myself or request to restore this article as a full status of article. Here are some references:
- JAts
- History of Sindh
- THE JATS OF SIND
- Jats of Sindh Google search
- Tribes of Sindh (Indus Valley)
- Jats
Jogi 007 (talk) 12:57, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Recent revert
I have just reverted some huge additions for a variety of reasons. Those include that we do not use genetics studies in articles relating to castes and we do not include massive unsourced lists of subclans etc. Perhaps there was something worth saving in that 70k of additions but I also suspect it may have been copy/pasted from somewhere.
I have no objection to discussing it, obviously, but if anything goes in, it will need to be pruned and sourced. - Sitush (talk) 14:23, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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Removal of "Jaat" and possibly other ways to pronounce other than Jat or Jatt. This information is false and is not referenced. The reference is actually contrary to the information in the article. Addition of • Ghiasuddin Tughluq, Founder of the Tughluq dynasty, Delhi Sultanate. Haig, Wolseley (1922-07). "Five Questions in the History of the Tughluq Dynasty of Dihli". Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society. 54 (3): 319–372. doi:10.1017/s0035869x00053557. ISSN 1356-1863. Addition of origin of Jats which is not included in this. It is widely believed that the Jats descended hordes of Scythian nomads. These migrating groups travelled into modern day Punjab and conquered it from the natives.[5] Over time, they assimilated into the local population, and the Jats are a by-product of this. This view is backed by Sir Alexander Cunningham, the former Director-General of the Archaeological Survey of India who believed the Jats to be the Xanthii . This was a Scythian tribe who Cunnigham believed was likely to be the Zaths (Jats) of early Arab writers. He explains how they are found in the Punjab region from the early Christian period onwards, and that they had total control of the Indus valley by the 7th century. 80.189.68.174 (talk) 18:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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