Talk:Metalocalypse

Black comedy

Should be Metalocalypse be catagorized as a black comedy?~~ Blindsnyper 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Not even funny. If you're not going to be helpful, get lost. --Ryouga 04:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Whoa wait a minute, I may have missed something but the series does just gore, death, etc. funny. It would fit to the definition and I can see where he comming from. What's with telling him to get lose. DarkGhost89 06:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, Metalocalypse is a black comedy. I guess Ryouga didn't bother looking it up and thought Blindsnyper meant black comedy as in Bill Cosby. Search4Lancer 08:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Toki section questions

The section says that he has a myspace, was this referenced in the show, or does he actually have a myspace? Also, where does the notion that he is chronically depressed come from?

The only "official" myspace pages for the band are the adult swim official site (maintained by Brendon) and the William Murderface page (maintained by Tommy).

In the first episode Toki mentions having to "take a few personal days" to deal with his grief (over what was happening). Murderface gets all upset and says that he just took 5-6 personal days the week before-- Toki says he had been depressed about color. I think Skwisgaar mentions something about Toki's personal vacations in Performance Klok, as well. So I'm guessing that's where the "he's chronically depressed" comes from. :/

In the IGN interview, Toki says that his inspiration comes from "Depression and wind." (Skwisgaar is inspired by hatred for his mother. Pickles is inspired by drums, and occasionally cymbals.)--Halloween jack 03:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Flash animated show?

The opening of the article says that the show is Flash animated. Can this be confirmed or is it simply speculation?63.100.44.98 00:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Yep, it's Flash. A Google search will reveal several websites, including TV.com and the Animation World Network (AWN), that provide this information. FinalMinuet 07:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

That's pretty darn crazy, considering the detail and length of each episode... MAN!

Tie in with Downtown and Megas XLR?

One of the people being interviewed during the first episode (Circa 3:13 on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlvzbVT9ld8&mode=related&search= ) looks to be Goat from the MTV show Downtown_(TV_series) and cartoon network show Megas_XLR. While maybe not significant, it does pose as a neat bit of trivia if someone wants to add it to either the main page once a trivia section starts up or the episode guide. - Wolfman Walt 05:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe Metalocalypse is animated by the guys who did Megas XLR (Titmouse Studios) but I can't really find anywhere that confirms this.

according to IMDB.com, chris prynoski of titmouse inc. was the director/co-producer of megas XLR: http://imdb.com/name/nm0699372/ so, it's a possibility. but then again, i've seen plenty of metalheads that look like that ... cma 02:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Well according to IMDB, it seems a majority of Titmouse worked on both Megas XLR AND Downtown (Prynoski was the supervising director on Downtown). I just emailed Prynoski in hopes that he can clear this up, hopefully I'll receive a reply though I wouldn't be really optimistic about getting a reply soon. Wolfman Walt

I received my reply from Chris Pyrynoski who confirmed that the character was indeed Goat and that he will be making appearances later in the series. I'll go ahead and add it to the trivia section. Here's the closest I can come to making a citation of it: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8919/chrisgoatjx4.jpg Wolfman Walt

So, in other words the person everyone has dubbed as "one-eyed fan" is Goat from Megas XLR/Downtown. --carpeNoctem 16:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

That'd be right, but the email made it uncertain if James Hetfield was going to voice Goat in future episodes, but as it stands, he's Goat's voice actor. Wolfman Walt 03:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Show title has been changed

The show is now called Metalocalypse and needs to be changed accordingly in all links and referring links to the show. carpeNoctem 06:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

This appears to have been completed. LK Thurisaz 20:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. I noticed that and I am glad. TVGuide's listings need to get on the ball too. Strangely, they had the show title correct at first, but when the show actually aired they listed it with the old extended title. -carpeNoctem 07:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Biased?

"ear-melting heavy metal" is in there. For one, the vocals does not sound like heavy metal, as heavy metal is more sung than grunted. Two, "ear-melting"? That seems very biased to me, considering some people have much more an ear for metal, and it's NOT very hard, and it seems to be based soley on the opinion of the writer.

You're right, it's a point of view, but the phrase is within a quote from the Adult Swim site, so it's not up to us to rephrase someone else's words. --TM 08:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with TM that since the quote is from the Adult Swim site it shouldn't be changed. I also agree the music is not what I would classify as "heavy metal" either - it's death metal. The description of "ear-melting" seems to have been coined as a means to hype up the show in much the same way Brendon Small is later quoted as saying the show will be about "murder. violent violent murder. and metal." It's just chosen words for hype. --carpeNoctem 06:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Except the show is about violent violent murder. and metal. —Slicing (talk) 08:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Violent violent murder, metal, and a few jokes that only metalheads will get, including references to 3 Cannibal Corpse songs.--72.200.191.206 01:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

nitpicking

why the two most recent promos only? what about the 2 or 3 others that they've been showing for a few months now? also, "sung" being in quotation marks seems somewhat POV to me. cma 10:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Nah. There's a difference between singing and grunting. And this is death grunts, a legit form of vocal styles. -D14BL0 18:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

That is exactly the reason why I enclosed "sung" in quotes when I worded that - there is a difference between vocal delivery as D14BL0 has said. Some metal songs have what is called "clean" vocals with straight-forward singing and others have "death grunts" or "cookie monster" vocals. --carpeNoctem 07:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

anyway, why is the "promo" section back? what's the point? if you're going to include those two, how about the use of "untitled scandinavian death metal project" on the schedule calendar way back when, the theme lyrics one, all the various "fintroll's" promos, and the recent "dethday" one? i don't really get why those two are notable. cma 06:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The "promo section" used to contain descriptive information but most of those well-composed and thought out passages (written by myself) have been deleted by someone - so I agree that the promos section has now been rendered useless. --carpeNoctem 18:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

pronunciation

Am I the only one who can't figure out the right way to pronounce the title of the show? Smart Mark Greene 22:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

replace the "ap" in "apocalypse" with "metal". there you have it. cma 00:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

meh-tuhl-ah-cuh-lips -D14BL0 18:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Tommy's Last Name

imdb.com has him listed as "Tommy Blacha". Brendon refers to him as "Tommy Blacha", and a google search of both returns 988 in favour of "Blacha" and 8 in favour of "Blancha". Can someone verify after tonight's premiere on the Fix?

Blacha is correct. - DImfeld 03:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I wonder why they don't have an imdb entry for Metalocalypse? LK Thurisaz 20:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

They do now, although it's pretty thin.

pictures.

I've uploaded two Promo pictures for this article. [1] and [2]. The second one is more official because it came straight from the adult swim website. There's also this one and this one, which also come from the adult swim website. I like the one we have now. If you can find any more pictures for this article, that would be great. dposse 18:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Voice Talent

I don't think James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett are permanent voice talents for the show - just guest talent. Same with Michael Amott and the guys from Nevermore. LK Thurisaz 20:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Nowhere in the article does it indicate that any of the band member talents being brought to the show are anything more than guest voices, so I really don't understand why this has been opened for discussion. --carpeNoctem 07:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Under show info for 'Voices' it shows James Hetfield & Kirk Hammett. What I was noting is that they aren't permantent voice talent for the show, just guests for a particular episode. According to how its worded here, it appears as if they are a part of the show permanently. Just an observation... LK Thurisaz 12:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Random related info: metallica.com cites James as Fan #1 and Kirk as Fan #2.

looks like hetfield and hammett are back in the third episode. don't know which roles they played in this one, though, but goat makes another appearance at murderface's party. oh, and should we wait and see when king diamond will be used, or should we throw that in the trivia section mentioning amott, etc.? cma 00:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

after seeing the episode again just now, i noticed that goat's in the crowd at the whole demolition derby thing, but i can't for the life of me recall if he's at the party. but, whatever. also, the murderface birthday sniper has to be hetfield. cma 07:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Kirk Hammett voiced the Queen of Denmark. I know this because there is an interview which states that he would be the Queen of Denmark in an episode and James is going to be an old sea captain/comedy coach in an upcoming episode. --carpeNoctem 16:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I stand completely corrected. I may not be a huge Metallica fan but I like the fact that they are having fun with this. LK Thurisaz 17:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Confirmed from Metallica.com on both counts, Kirk is the Queen of Denmark and James is the sniper.

At least in the case of Metallica's guest voices, one can check to confirm their appearances at their official website metallica.com. They have a nice episode listing of which character was voiced by who, the character names, and even screenshots of the characters. --carpeNoctem 09:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Quotes

Little section about quotes to put on the main article

We're here to make coffee metal We will make everything metal BLACKER THAN THE BLACKEST BLACK TIMES INFINITY

--71.108.0.223 00:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

MySpace.

Unless there is proof that the people from Adult Swim or the show created the pages and not some 13 year old with way too much time on his hands, please leave MySpace links out of this article. Please see WP:V. dposse 16:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Does the "Myspace Music" menu bar at the top mean that it's an official page, or can anyone get their page categorized that way? Either way, it doesn't really seem worth adding a link to the myspace page; there's hardly anything there right now. Maybe if more content is added. - DImfeld 02:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I wondered why the MySpace link keeps getting removed. I seem to think it is legitimately their official MySpace and not some user-created profile because Brendon Small has the profile in his top 8 on MySpace and he also is in Dethklok's top 8 on their profile. I doubt Brendon would endorse a fake profile of the band. If you doubt that it is Brendon's MySpace, he has a blog entry about wishing to sell his old computer which he created Metalocalypse on and the entry has actual pictures of his computer adorned with metal band, Krank Amps, and Home Movies stickers and logos. Brendon has always mentioned in interviews that he is treating the show's fictitious band, Dethklok like you would a real band. A logical move then would be to create a band profile on MySpace like most other bands do. The band profile comes up in search results for metal bands and has been in the Top Bands List for quite some time now. Originally there was only one Dethklok profile, but now that the show has gained popularity there are fan-made profiles cropping up, but only this one has over 1,000 fans and it offered the "Dethklok Theme" (the official one, not the original - Brendon's website doesn't even have the official - for a fan to have gotten the official theme months before the show aired and uploaded it to the player is not very likely) and "Duncan Hills Coffee Jingle" as downloadable mp3s before the first episode even premiered. Two of the band members, Skwisgaar Skwigelf and William Murderface have MySpace profiles and are leaving comments in character - it is debatable if those are official but Skwisgaar's looks professional although Murderface's was present months before his. --carpeNoctem 01:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

i'm rather wary of any dethklok "members" on myspace that are not on the dethklok top 8. william murderface is the only one listed, and his profile has been around since march, as i can recall--around the same time that the official dethklok myspace went up. i've gotten a fake vibe from the skwisgaar as he does nothing but flood myspace with dethklok promos; since march, i've only seen maybe two or three bulletin posts for metalocalypse on both brendon's and dethklok's myspaces.

I agree that Murderface's profile has been the first and I believed it to be official since Brendon and Dethklok had it in their top 8's. The question really wasn't to do with the band members but the band's profile. If it has been agreed that www.myspace.com/dethklok is the official MySpace - It now says it is indeed the official [adult swim] myspace. I was right all along. Can it now be included in the external links? We don't need band members listed but what does it hurt to have the band's MySpace? --carpeNoctem 08:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

i think the dethklok myspace is a real one, made by brendon small. because it's brendon's 'top friend' on his myspace page [3]. ~~Patrick~~ 21:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

the dethklok myspace page is real. unless wikipedia now has a rule against including links to myspace pages in articles, then quit removing it. cma 22:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

It has been established that the MySpace profile is official. There is no need to continue to remove it once it is added. That only applied when it wasn't 100% confirmed that the MySpace was real. That is the only rule of wikipedia, that incorrect information and questionable links are not promoted. I told everyone here that the MySpace was official from the start and now that this has been confirmed, it can stay. If you feel it has no information of value - what is downloadable mp3's from the show and updates in the blogs then? --carpeNoctem 16:31, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

you know another good reason that the page might be real is cause it always has access to dethklok songs that no one else ahs heard. usually they're in the show, but edited. the myspace page has real studio recording s of full songs. ~~Patrick~~ 00:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The Dethklok MySpace is real. Every week after the new episode airs that Sunday, the music player is updated so you can download the featured song from the episode. It just sucks that MySpace forces all mp3's uploaded to be at 96 kbps now, because it degrades the quality. (Also I don't know what is more lame, imposter wannabe Dethklok MySpace profiles or the idiots who add them as a friend thinking they are the real thing). The updates concerning the blogs with King Diamond voiceinf four episodes and Cannibal Corpse are true as well. People need to stop dismissing any MySpace as beng fake. I know anyone can name their page "official" and that is often the problem I have with MySpace in determining if artists and celebrities are actually really them. Common sense and logic usually can determine if it is real or not. Murderface's profile which is in Brendon Small's Top 8 on MySpace is official. It was briefly shown during Senator Stampingston's briefing at the opening to the episode "Mordland" during the part of his presentation where he explained how they monitor the 10,000 Dethklok websites for information about their activities. --carpeNoctem 21:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Since there are Myspace profiles for the members of Dethklok should the links to the pages be added? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blindsnyper (talk • contribs)

Not unless they're directly connected to Metalocalypse. If it's their private space, definitely not. Even if they have their doing solo projects (in that case, add the myspace to the respective site on Wikipedia). But if it's somehow deeply connected to the band, then yes. -Patstuart 21:58, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

as far as i know, the only "real" dethklok member myspace is william murderface's (maintained by tommy blacha). when in doubt, look for reused (and overused) quotes or references from the show--once you pay close attention, it's very easy to tell which are fake and which are not. cma 09:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Patstuart, your comment makes me think that you actually think the Dethklok band members are real. Private spaces? Solo projects? --carpeNoctem 09:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

There are pages of Dethklok members that have Brendon Small in their top friends list and I would like to think Brendon wouldn't advertise fake pages of work he does.-- Blindsnyper 13:46 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Anyone know the source of the title name?

Is there any know explanation to why the band's name is 'Death Klok'? Other than they were trying to 'make clocks metal'?

Conviently enough the day after Metalocalypse premiered an episode of Futurama "A Big Piece of Garbage" aired. Where early in the episode Dr. Farnsworth presents his invention the Death Clock, which can predict the users death. I wonder if there is any connection here. --Shimbozy 03:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

There is also an invention in the internet called the "DeathClock" which "predicts" the day when you will die and shows a countdown clock to that day. Might also be connected in some way. LK Thurisaz 13:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

here's my guess. Nearly every song features a riff based on fourths, which when played, sounds like the ticking of a clock. How do you make a clock metal? throw the word death in there somewhere, but spell it differently to be legally distinct from the band Deathclock. Intresting theory, may be 100% wrong though68.77.42.10 08:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

The Futurama episode referenced above was several years old by the time of the premiere of Metalocalypse, and most of the people responsible for the show have been working in the animation industry for quite some time, some directly with Cartoon Network, who have aired Futurama for years now. It seems very unlikely that Dethklok is NOT derived from or at least an acknowledgement of Professor Farnsworth's Death Clock. 71.56.99.71 01:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)dre

No, it's not at all likely. Not all the world's ideas have been spawned in television cartoons -- in fact, very few have been. The concept of a "death clock" predates Futurama by a good many decades at least. In fiction, it is something that predicts your exact time of death. The earliest example in fiction that I can think of is from Robert A. Heinlein's first ever short story, "Life-Line", written decades before the writers of Futurama were born, and is a possible explanation for the joke in that show. In reality, a death clock is a combination of statistics used for calculating when you will most likely die, see deathclock.com as an example. --Boradis 02:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

brendonsmall theme link

the theme posted here is the old theme brendon made when he first started the very beginning stages of the show, well over a year ago. the newer, and official theme can be listened to and downloaded at dethklok's myspace

which is another good argument to include the official Dethklok MySpace because I have the original theme and it is so minimalistic in comparison to the new improved final version of the theme. People really should be directed to the newer theme - show enthusiasts or fans of Brendon Small's overall work or just rabid Dethklok fans would really be only interested in a rough draft theme, not the inquisitive general public. --carpeNoctem 16:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Plot

We know the show is about the band making things "metal" and their exsitance as it relates to the world. But it appears there is a group of "government" or "world" officials who are closely monitoring the band and their possible (if not confirmed) existance due to resembleance of an ancient drawing (see "Curse of Dethklok" episode). I'm guessing this will be a part of the show from now on based on seeing parts of the second episode? Should this be included somewhere? LK Thurisaz 13:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

album

i received a myspace blog from the [dethklok myspace] that read:

THE DETHKLOK ALBUM

We're working in early stages on the album now.

We know very little at this point except it's going to be as METAL as it can fucking be.

In other news:

YOU FUCKERS KICK ASS!!!

YOU made METALOCALYPSE the number one watched show in it's time slot!!!!!

Spread the word of the METALOCALYPSE and help to take over TV!!!

We have 20 mother fucking episodes for YOU!

We will making everything METAL!!!!!!!

METAL.

- Nathan Explosion

so maybe there could be a sectiopn or page on this. Eirik Raude 21:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Probably best to wait until there's more information to start a new section in my opinion. A mention in the trivia section might do for now? --TM 02:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

new info. on the dethklok myspace page, there was a bulletin advertising a new metalocalypse episode and ended stating info on the Dethalbum soon. and today after flipping around the internet, i stumbled on this wallpaper on the album swim site. here could this be a possible album cover? Patrick (talk) 05:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

now we have some info (maybe enough to start an album page?), from a post by the dethklok myspace:

We went in the studio on Tuesday to begin laying it down. What to expect: Your favorite songs from the show in FULL LENGTH- No more 1 minute songs with a fade out but FULL LENGTH SONGS in all of their brutality- (with new sections you've never heard). There may be some new surprises on the CD (more to come on that). Also a couple key words in putting the CD together: Gene Hoglan (if you don't know him then do some research and begin buying his entire library). Release date: Summer 07. Yes you will have to wait. But it will be more than worth it. I will leak more info as I have it including track listing etc. . . So start looking fwd to the summer.

...Patrick (talk, contributions) 06:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Is there any information on who's producing?

Anyone know who voices who?

I have two screencaps of the first two episodes' credits, Episode 1 and Episode 2. What I would like to know is if anyone knows what these people voice to, like:

• Skwisgaar Skwigelf =
• Toki Wartooth =
• William Murderface =
• Pickles =
• Nathan Explosion = (I think its "Brendon Small"?)

Can anyone help me out their, please? Much thanks. Ps. Mark friken Hamill is voiceing here WOWOWOW? lol makes the show even better :P --HardToExplain 19:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing Small does most, if not all of the band members. It'll probably be up on IMDb soon anyway. --TM 21:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

i heard somewhere that kirk and james of metallica are just extras at the concert in norway. but i'd asume the arch enemy dude is Skwisgaar Skwigelf. his accent just seems real. whenever i hear him say something, i see a person who speaks english as their 3rd or 4th language reading a script, and recording his first takes. hahah Eirik Raude 21:59, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

All the voices of the band members are divided between Brendon Small and Tommy Blacha. The only voice confirmed to a specific person so far is Nathan Explosion is Brendon Small. According to information from an interview, the Metallica band members will be popping up now and then to provide various guest voices in future episodes. --carpeNoctem 08:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

From The Great Falls Tribune Aug 03, 2006, Tommy does Murderface and Toki, and Brendon does Pickles, Nathan and Skwisgaar.

Does anyone know who Doug Dever is, if he's doing a voiceover and why he's mentioned in the same section as Metallica, CC and King Diamond?

Musical talent

Is there any info on who writes/performs the shows music?

Brendon Small is credited for all the music in the show's credits. Shimbozy 19:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

pickles/Devin Townsend resemblance

kudos on the addition of this one. this was one of the first things the boyfriend and i noticed about the characters, and i actually asked brendon about this at this year's san diego comic con. it's rather funny to see it added to the wiki. cma 02:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought the similarity was uncanny, so I added it. There was a actually a thread about on the HevyDevy Forums, and Devin's wife Tracy responded about it. She seemed very upset that a character so similar in appearance to Devin would be a violent idiot. Apparently SYL management negotiated to get it changed. I would link the thread in the article, but you have to be a forum member to view it. --Burbster 02:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

didn't hear about that. i figured they were going to have to change the design, since pickles was honestly quite close to a charicature of devin back then. not to mention how my question was carefully avoided, heh. do you think that tidbit should be included in the article? cma 06:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Sure, why not? Enough people seem to have noticed (including HDR, the forums and SYL's management) and let's face it, the similarity definately is strong between the original design and how Devin Townsend appears in many of SYL photos --Burbster 10:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The Band

I think it would be neat to treat this section as separate from the context of the show and pretend just within this section of the wiki that Dethklok as a band actually does exist (and not add any of the voice actor or crew and cast information to this part). Perhaps here we could include the link to their official MySpace, mention of the upcoming album and other such information in addition to the names and positions of the band members and their product endorsements. --carpeNoctem 17:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Can't do that. Improper style. It's not a real band so we can't treat it as such. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think you misunderstood me. I was just talking about the section "The Band" within this article, not the entire wikipedia entry. Brendon Small has said in several interviews that he is treating the fictitious band within the show as if they are a real band. - therefore they have endorsements from real musician product companies, a MySpace band page, an actual planned album release, etc. I wasn't encouraging the entire wikipedia entry to treat the band like it actually existed. What is there now in "The Band" section I think is fine.

--carpeNoctem 09:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Dethklok's genre

Right now it's listed as Black Metal. This should be changed to, at the very least, Death Metal. Aside from the corpsepaint, there's really nothing Black Metal about Dethklok whatsoever. The vocals aren't Black Metal, the guitarwork isn't Black Metal, the drumming, lyrics, etc. Even though they aren't pure Death Metal, that label would be much more fitting than Black Metal. X-pert74 02:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

It was death metal. An anon switched it. It's fixed. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 02:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

They are primarily death metal, and if you have a metal ear, you can also pick out the total power metal lead play (ala Children of Bodom). It is best to leave the overview part simply at "metal" though, to avoid debate. It said "Melodic death" before, which I, among others, would not agree with. --Ryouga 20:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

trivia: dethklok inspirations

where does it mention these on the myspace page? please cite the direct source for this, and make sure it's not some random kid who was saying "this is who i think they might be based on". cma 03:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't be afraid to cut nonsense like that when you see it. I have a decided dislike for MySpace, so I wasn't willing to check up on it at first. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

i figured to just keep it until someone posted a source for it, since looking for things like that on myspace is a pain in the ass, and i could have very well missed something "official" somewhere--but that works, too. heh. cma 05:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

actually it was on the page at one point but its gone now, i didn't notice but it was obviously just a blog from some fan. (Wiki-Wolf 01:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC))

okay, the abundant fan speculation about who the characters are based on cannot possibly be necessary. if someone FROM THE SHOW makes it clear who the characters are based on, then add it. if someone on myspace or the adult swim message board says, "i think nathan explosion is based on andrew WK", then don't add it. i am especially bothered by the way it's worded: "Other members of Dethklok are based on popular icons in heavy metal music." and then it goes on to list more fan speculation from myspace. cma 04:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I removed it cause it was just fans guessing. In fact, I've read where the creators have specifically said that the characters aren't based on any specific people but are, in their words, "archetypes." Recury 14:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Pickles' name....

Was Pickles' name different in the planning stages? I've listened to an old version of the opening theme (the one titled "deathclock final theme", I think from Brendon's website but I could be wrong), and it really doesn't sound like he's saying Pickles... sounds more like Alec... or Alex.... Search4Lancer 02:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

• I've listened to it, and he's definately saying Pickles. SAlpsu 22:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

There seems to be an issue with repetitive trivia between this page and the episode list. This is simply a waste of space and should probably be cut down to a link saying something like "for episode specific trivia see List of Metalocalypse Episodes. --NeoVampTrunks 13:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

done. cma 04:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Skwisgaar

Says in the article that he's Swedish. Are you sure he's not Norwegian, considering that the band is described as half-american, half-norwegian? --Burbster 22:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Comfirmed by his Adult Swim bio. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Skwisgaar and Toki are brothers?

It appears to be implied that Toki Wartooth and Skwisgaar Skwigelf are actually brothers during their "Mothers hates you most" comedy routine as the Brothers of Deception during the "Dethkomedy" episode.

Then again, it was a routine. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 20:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

True, but to be fair one could have drawn a logical conclusion that they were brothers based on the very nature of the routine they chose. They did a parody of the Smothers Brothers who were actually real-life brothers. It has been already dismissed with the episode "Dethfam" that Toki and Skwisgaar are not brothers. --carpeNoctem 09:11, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Clean up Trivia?

Seems to be long run on sentices and unrelated ideas off the whole pickels drummer thing...

--Masterzman 04:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I think we should keep the pickles/Devin Townsend thing. Even HDR commented on the resemblance so I think it's pretty significant.

the pickles/townsend resemblance and threat-of-lawsuit (:P) is relevant enough to remain in the article. however, i feel that fan-based opinions on who the other characters are should be left out of the trivia, and removed if they're added again without a citable source. especially if it's along the lines of "most fans think [he] is based on [him], yet other fans think that [he] is based on [him], or possibly [him]". that led to the outrageously large, and useless, section that was entirely made up of opinions taken from a myspace group thread. cma 08:51, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

External link issue

Theres an external link in the trivia section, "the dethklok site" that links to www..com/dethklok. anyone know where this should go? Miles 01:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

probably the official site --Wildnox 02:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

CD

Someone needs to find out if there coming out with a CD and if not suggest it to someone.

According to bulletins from Brendon Small, a CD is in the works. No potential release date.

lyrics necessary?

do we really need lyrics. i don't think wikipedia is the correct place for that. maybe it would a better idea to have an article devoted to the actual band, and put the lyrics there. but this page is about a tv show. ~~Patrick~~ 04:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

i agree. i don't believe that the lyrics are necessary, and considering the fact that the (mostly correct and misspelled) lyrics are easily accessable by watching your TV with closed captioning on, or elsewhere on the internet by searching google. they're not needed here. cma 19:52, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I very much like the idea of splitting off a new article about the band. I think the shows probably becoming popular enough to warrant it (26,000+ friends on their myspace, several press mentions), and it would clean up this article a lot. --KharBevNor 03:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree but would just like to point out that this particular show is not close-captioned and it would be nice to see accurately transcribed lyrics appearing somewhere to the songs, because some of these guesses at them being made are horrible. But since wikipedia is a user-edited reference, there is no way to know how long the accurate lyrics would last until someone changed to make them inaccurate again. -- carpeNoctem 20:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Band page?

Good idea? as KharBevNor said it would clean up this page a lot. and while i'm on the subject of dethklok as a band not a show, i've seen some promo pictures from before the show was aired and these showed the dethklok (not metalocalypse) logo containing an Heavy metal umlaut over the "o." ah, here's one. so question to people working on this page, should there be a dethklok band-style page, and should it be spelt DethKlok or DethKlök? ~~Patrick~~ 06:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

A band page would be good. There's enough individual information on the members to make a decent entry. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 06:38, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Until they release an album, a redirect to here is probably best, since the band and the show are practically the same thing as of right now. Recury 16:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

one more thing. the wallpapers on the adult swim websit are showing the name DethKlok as having an umlaut over the e, and a slash through the o. so its DëthKløk ~~Patrick~~ 18:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

the accented letters aren't used all the time, however. personally, i still feel that there is still too little information (and that which we know is mostly speculation based quotes on the show) about the band to warrant its own separate page.

also, does anyone else think that the talk page should be cleaned up? i'd like to archive the majority of it, primarily the completely obsolete questions/discussions, if nobody objects. cma 12:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

This is the idea I had in mind when I created the talkback section "The Band" earlier in August and I was shot down by you, Someguy0830 telling me that it was improper style and it's not a real band so we can't treat it as such. Now suddenly it's a good idea? --carpeNoctem 21:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Someguy0830 never said to treat Dethklok as a real band. He's merely suggesting taking the band section of "Characters in Metalocalypse" and moving it to its own article. I'm guessing the article would simply be called "Dethklok" and would use the manual of style for writing on fiction. FinalMinuet 15:11, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Stop taking the show's dialogue at face value

Statement's in the article such as:

"Skwisgaar seems to be the member of the the band to get lots of woman"

"he was prescribed medicinal marijuana as a child for "kiddie glaucoma."

are based on statements made by the characters which are taken out of context and probably not entirely true within the Metalocalypse universe. Better alternatives would be something along the lines of:

"on occasion Skwisgaar likes to boast about his prowess with women"

"which he claimed was because he "grew up smoking government weed every day" due to suffering from "kiddie glaucoma".

-85.210.152.124 09:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Much of the article has become this idiotic fan speculation. Wikipedia is not the place for this kind of thing. --NeoVampTrunks 01:57, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Uh. Speculated section?

The band's unnatural popularity seems to have attracted the attention of an Illuminati-style group, which appears in each episode to comment on the band's latest escapades and deliberate the situation. Dethklok appears to resemble an ancient Sumerian prophecy, which apparently is not a peaceful one, given the band's activities. The fact that they manage to summon a troll in "Dethtroll", and that the band is frequently shown with glowing eyes is a sign that their powers are increasing.

Aside from the first sentence, this whole paragraph is nothing but speculation. Anyone opposed to me removing it? EDIT:Actually, I think I'll just remove it, and complaints can be directed here. -- Digital Watches! 00:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, aside from the glowing eyes, and end of the second sentence, that's entirely true. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 01:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

The only part of that passage which is speculation is the end part. There is nothing to confirm that because they had the ability to summon the Lake Troll and because their eyes are shown glowing red that it means their powers are increasing. True, they did summon a Lake Troll, but they did it accidentally due to taking the lyrics from the actual ancient scriptures - they didn't summon it intentionally to destroy and wreak havoc in their own hometown! The band members eyes have been shown glowing red at the end of the episodes "Dethwater" and "Performance Klok" but at this time we do not know what particular significance this has (if any). --carpeNoctem 20:51, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, after tonights episode, I'd say that the glowing eyes does have something to do with powers. They summoned tornados, and their eyes glowed red again. Although, it's still spec, as it hasn't been stated on the show. Moterola 00:08 6 October 2006

Cameos

The Information on the Cameos should be placed in the Episode Spific trivia.

Actually, with the episode list, it looks like most of the cameos are actually mentioned over there now in each episode. We really need to have the information repeated in the main article? Bitnine 16:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

The manager. lawyer, advisor?

I thought this guy was their lawyer, not their manager. -- unknown user

I've been calling him their advisor. He always seems to be advising them on financial, business. and personal matters and making connections and calls for them and assisting them. I highly doubt a lawyer would have sent two men to their deaths, he would have created a court case. Can we find a term for him that we can all agree on? I like Advisor. --carpeNoctem 09:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, 'advisor' works, but I think you overestimate the lawyers (especially lawyers in a show like Metalocalypse) if you don't think a lawyer would send two men to their deaths.

It appears that everyone seems to want to go with Manager. That works for me too. I just want it to be a consistent term so I can know what to name him at the tv.com Metalocalypse guide. --carpeNoctem 07:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The Band section and names

I have a small deal with the section The Band. At the moment, each band member has the corresponding article of the lyrics used to describe them in the show's opening song. First, is this needed in this section, and secondly, if it is, where should it be placed? The previous way was fine in my opinion, but I do agree that where its placed now (in the first line of the following text) is also sensible. If anything, I think it should be specified that those items come from the opening theme's lyrics. I do like how it's been cleaned up, though, as it looks a lot cleaner now. --ModernTenshi04 16 October 2006

I appreciate the appreciation(I did the clean-up on The Band section). The goal was to simply clean it up, without digging too much into what was said (beyond finding a way to arrange it into logical paragraphs, rather than a collection of information tidbits about the band members). I personally think if the song lyrics belong anywhere, they belong where they are now. Putting them in the subsection title would be atrocious. However, I agree with you that it would be reasonable to clarify that these lyrics came from the opening theme. My gripe with The Band section is the three bits of information I marked with the "citation/verification needed" template. Nathan Explosion speaks fluent french? I saw every episode, but I don't remember that. Where was that from? Was the hypothesis on Toki Wartooth's namesake just a random idea from nowhere, or was it someone else's? No original research is allowed on wikipedia, so if it's someone else's idea, it needs a source. Despite the opening theme lyrics, is there any indication that Skwisgaar is, in fact, the tallest guitarist in the world? These things, I think, need to be addressed. --FalseLobster 02:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem! I do agree with you that the references to Skwisgaar being the tallest guitarist in the world, and the assumption that Nathan speaks fluent French should be removed (or at least that you seem to imply their removal), as I have seen all the episodes, and haven't heard either of these claims. As for the items in parentasis that are pulled from the opening themes lyrics, I personally think they should be removed. They're already covered in the lyrics section of the Wikiquotes page, and I can't seem to think of a reasonable means of noting that they, in fact, are merely pulled from the show's opening theme. Basically, they do nothing but add clutter, and can be seen as something either only a fan of the show would know, or something no one would get until they read the lyrics to the opening theme. Also, what's up with the recent rearangement of the order the band members listing? What is the logic behind it? I can see why Nathan would be at the top, as he's the lead singer/"leader" of the group, but what of the others? The other way made sense, as it was how they are introduced in the show's opening theme, but I'm new here, and there could be a method to the madness for all I know :P. Could someone explain this, if possible? -- ModernTenshi04 11:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it's just alphabetical now--Explosion, Murderface, Pickles, Skwigelf, Wartooth..?

Oh, wow, how the hell did I not notice that? Okay, that makes more sense to me now. -- ModernTenshi04 12:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I was implying that they should be removed if they aren't true. I was consulting the community to see if those things were stated at some point and I missed it, rather than just outright assuming I was correct. Your argument about the parenthetical lyrics is logical, and I am removing them. The arrangement of the band members was fine before, in my opinion, but I also think it's fine now. FalseLobster 23:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I believe I know where the comment about Nathan being fluent in French came from. I was watching episode 9 via Google Video, and at the very end Jean-Pierre is pouring Nathan a cup of coffee. After pouring the cup, Nathan says, "Mercie," and then after taking his first sip, he says, "bon, coffee, Jean-Pierre." Pardon my French if I've misspelled anything, as I don't speak French, so yeah. While I don't believe this is enough to say that he is fluent in French, or for that matter imply it, we now know where the reasoning came from, and can refer back to this if it comes up in a dispute later on. Search for the show on Google Video (don't want to link to it for reasons I'm sure you can understand), and then look for episode 9, "Mordland." Go to the very end, and you'll hear what I'm talking about. Again, while I don't feel it's enough to factually state or even imply that he speaks French, fluently or otherwise, we now have an explanation as for where the data came from. Feel free to put it back in if you want, but I think it should be left out, as it's rather erroneous, and would likely be implied data rather than factual. -- ModernTenshi04 23:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I really preferred the band members listed as they are named in the opening song. As for the Nathan fluent in French thing, for all we know those could be the only French phrases he knows. I mean, he admittedly isn't too bright. In an upcoming episode he's even going to attempt to get his GED. --carpeNoctem 08:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Totally agree with you on the French thing, but I do rather like the way the band members list is now. People who have never seen the show before could easily see that the list is presented alphabetically, where as if it were presented in the order in which they are introduced in the show's opening theme, it would require that they know that before hand, or that they read the lyrics for the opening theme to understand why they were in such an order. Granted, I doubt many people will care, but alphabetical order seems more logical and easily understood by non-fans and fans alike. -- ModernTenshi04 11:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

File Sharing Sub-section

Alright, I saw this section when I checked the page this morning before heading off to class. Durring some downtime after a class this morning I took it upon myself to clean it up a bit. I've redone the format in which the information was presented into one I feel is more presentable than the previous one (no offense intended to the original designer), but I still think it could use some work. Moreover, is this section really even needed? -- ModernTenshi04 13:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I've looked up a few other bands in the genre (and others) and I've never seen a filesharing section on another page. Moreover, the info's incorrect--"Fansong" is from "Mordland" and is (was?) available from the Dethklok myspace page. For what it's worth, I call it cruft.-- cybersybil

Sweet, so all the editing I did there was for naught :P. Oh well, completely agree that it was cruft. -- ModernTenshi04 15:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Not all for naught, the rest of it looks and sounds a lot better. Thanks.

Individual Character Pages?

Anybody?

As the show progresses, we learn more and more about the characters. Does anybody think there should be individual character pages?

One character page first. Make List of characters in Metalocalypse, then break it once it the characters are big enough. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Bored with nothing to do at work, so I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to make the page. You can find the page at List of characters in Metalocalypse, and I've updated the main Metalocalypse article with a link to the page. As you can very well see, I merely took the info that was already on the main page, and copied it over to the new one. God I love copy and paste! I must say that the main article is much cleaner now. I also agree that as more information becomes available for the characters, individual pages should be created. 'Tis a popular show, so that might not take too long. And with that, I've officially created my first article page in Wikipedia. Go me! -- ModernTenshi04 16:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Good job. And uh... Congratulations!

Okay, um, what's the point of having each of the band member's listed in the character's section? I thought the whole purpose of creating a separate character's page was to eliminate this. I got rid of it earlier, but Yukichigai reverted it, saying that my explanation of cruft wasn't good enough to keep it deleted, or something. To be honest, it really is cruft, since having it there is presenting redundant information that would be found upon clicking the link to Characters in Metalocalypse. So I ask you: what the hell gives? -- ModernTenshi04 20:30, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It's only redundant if it is the exact same article content between the two. This is not the case. The reason for using the "main article" template is if you have a generalized summary of a certain topic -- in this case, a band roster -- but still want to retain more detailed information on a separate page. This keeps the most relevant information where it can be easily browsed, but still allows for the topic to be read about in more detail if so desired.

Additionally, I don't think "cruft" means what you think it means. It's a crap term anyway, but you should read the essay all the same. -- Y|yukichigai 21:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Categorization

As per the tag on the "List of characters in Metalocalypse" page, I created a Metalocalypse subcategory under the "Animated television series", "2006 television program debuts", "2000s TV shows in the United States", and "Shows on Adult Swim" categories. The main article, the character list, the episode list, Brendon Small, Victor Brandt, and Mark Hamill are all there. Please direct discussion here. FinalMinuet 16:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

template

I believe that this television show should have a navigation template. How do you add one?

Also, I believe we should create episode-specific articles. I have already made one from the first episode. We should do it for all of them. Thematt523 20:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

What happedned to the Trivia?

What happened to the trivia section? Blindsnyper 18:40, 6 November 2006. (UTC)

Go here for your answer: Talk: List of Metalocalypse Episodes (Trivia) -- ModernTenshi04 13:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

The 'summary' section is too waffly and doesn't sound like it's going anywhere. It needs to be divided into sub-sections, and called something else. LibLord 15:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Guitar Hero

in the new episode, a little girl was playing the guitar hero controller. kind of a funny tribute to the game

Yeah, I noticed that. Guessing it's a little "Thank You" for putting Thunderhorse into GHII. Moterola

DVD Release?

We're nearing the end of the first 20 episodes for season 1. Is there any talk of a release date for the DVD collection?

No. If a DVD were to be released, there'd be some news about it. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 22:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Last night, a bulletin was posted from the band's myspace stating that both the album and dvd were slated for a Summer 2007 release. I've added this information to the article. Mrcrue88 11:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Metal References

References to other metal bands are sprinkled throughout the series. Apart from the die hard metalheads out there, a fair few viewers will likely miss these. I believe their inclusion is important, as long as a reference is included. It is also good to have a fair idea of the influences that shaped the music of Deathclock.

I also feel that showing these is important. Keeping it to obvious metal references, such as Nathan's use of three Cannibal Corpse song titles in his Grocery Store rant, would keep it from growing into too much of a triva/speculation section. I thought the previously listed references were a nice touch since, I my self a metal head, didn't catch a few of them and enjoyed seeing them pointed out.

The problem with such sections is that they grow out of control with each passing episode. The slightest detail becomes instantly fascinating and people feel compelled to add it. It's different when you have series that run decent length episodes and can have articles for said episodes. This series features often disjointed eleven minute shorts which don't amount to much if any actual plot to write about. Just read the first line of WP:TRIVIA to see what I'm talking about. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 18:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

The council (or whatever it's called) actually has persisted between Metalocalypse episodes. Lately two members have split off and who knows what might happen (free-ballin'?). Really even in adultswim's less sensical shows like Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Sealab 2021 there is/was some continuity.

As far as when trivia becomes actual useful information, that's a question for the ages. MGlosenger 22:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh lord, not another edit war... Someguy, no matter how right you think you may be, this one-man crusade is getting horribly old. 209.129.117.2 08:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Same goes for you. Do you have any decent reason to keep the trivia, or are you just adding it because you find it "cool"? The metal references in this series are no more relevant than listing every gag Robot Chicken has ever done. I suggest you read up on what does and what doesn't belong. Your trivia falls into the latter. It'll be removed because of that. Don't like it? I suggest your pour your efforts into a place that doesn't mind such information. I'm sure TV.com would love your contributions. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 08:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

_My_ trivia? Who are you to claim I'm adding trivia? I am in favor of keeping it, but I have most certainly not contributed anything to these articles under the constantly-deleted trivia sections. I find your distaste for my point of view to go so far enough as to suggest I commit the most unholy of crimes as making an article "unencylopedic" to be disgusting. As far as the Robot Chicken reference, that's such a laughable comparison it isn't even worth arguing. 209.129.117.2 08:59, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Restoring it, whatever. It's a moot point at best. The point is that it doesn't belong here in the first place. Better the article be trivialess and encyclopedic than filled with useless trivia. In the end, can you say that trivia is anything more than random facts that only a select few will find interesting? Will anyone who doesn't watch this show even care? Articles are written more for those who don't know the subject than those that do. Those that don't know this show will not understand a trivial reference to a single episode, so what good does it do to mention it? As a side note, I find your knack for overstating my position amusing. The "most unholy of crimes" part was a nice touch. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 09:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I've a suggestion. Rather than putting your information in a section called 'trivia', incorporate it into the article as-is. By definition trivia is unimportant, and the idea of Wikipedia is to serve as a source of that which is of some importance. If you can't find a place for it, then perhaps it truly is of no use.

Personally, I find comparisons with other musicians pointless if you can't say that someone directly involved with the show specifically said a character or event was meant to be a direct homage to someone or something. I could easily imagine myself making comparisons with things until I had a long, long list. If you describe a character or event well enough, a knowledgeable reader will be able to draw their own conclusions anyway. And, 1000 years from now, a reader won't know who David Lee Roth or KISS is.. but they'll know who Zarxo the Flagrant is. MGlosenger 10:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

To add to that, disguising trivia as "Metal References" does not make it any less a collection of trivia. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 10:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

What is it with you and the personal attacks? You cite Wikipedia policies left and right when it's convenient, but that 'assume good faith' bit never seems to come up. It's obvious you've got an axe to grind, but do we have to be dragged along with it? 209.129.117.2 10:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

A personal attack would assume I'm attacking you directly. I'm pointing out the obvious. Naming a section "Metal References" is what was done to the section you kept readding. There is nothing personal about stating fact except in the way you choose to interpret it. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 10:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Japanese translation

Can anyone translate the Japanese language text on Pickles' green hachimaki in the "Dethstars" episode? Chris 07:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I only got the first two katakana but it looked like "Pikurusu". cybersybil 16:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

It said "pickles" in the katakana alphabet, the alphabet used for emphasis and foreign words in japanese. Patrick (talk) 21:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Dr. Rockso Official MySpace?

The "I'm Just a Rock 'n' Roll Clown" song said it was found on Dr. Rockso's Official MySpace. Then what is the link to it???

metalocalypse trivia

would you support Metalocalypse trivia. its up for deletion and i feel its relivant

By definition, trivia is unimportant. You're gonna have trouble with that one on Wikipedia. The way to ensure that the information stays in the article is to incorporate it into an existing section or make a new section with some theme other than 'trivia'. MGlosenger 02:01, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

i agree with both. theres a lot of information about metalocalypse that would be lost. but "metalocalypse trivia" just doesn't seem like a decent enough header. i mean, this is an encyclopedia. how about "Metalocalypse References" "References in Metalocalypse" or, the idea i put forth, how about individual pages for each episode, someone did it, but got deleated. if we had an individual page for each episode, the trivia wouldn't seem as big, cause it would obviously be split up into 19 parts. and if we had pages we could put more inofrmation. like longer plot lines, screen shots, ect. Patrick (talk) 03:12, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I think individual episode pages is an excellent idea. A lot of shows have that, and it would make things a lot more cohesive in general. Karpsmöm 03:34, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Re-redirected a Dethklok page to here

The person who last removed the redirect said that "once they release an album" they should be considered a "real" band (whatever "real" means in this context). Since a Dethklok album hasn't been released yet, I've restored the redirect. Besides, all the information on that page was already here, and there's no need for redundancy. --Boradis 23:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikia trivia page

Please leave the link alone. The page is relevant to the article and of interest.--Skyraider 00:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

One, you've made it on Wiki scratchpad. It's a temp Wiki and nothing more. Two, it's a badly formatted carbon copy of deleted material. All the internal links don't even work. Three, WP:EL supports its removal as external link spam. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

"Blood Ocean" Limited MP3 release on Dethklok's official MySpace

In the song list it has "Blood Ocean" as a "limited MP3 release on Dethklok's official MySpace" but if you go to the page you can't download the song, so I would say this was never release. Correct me if I am wrong but I think it may need some rewording. --Peavey5150 21:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

It actually was released for a brief time, hence the "limited." It's just not available for download anymore.Karpsmöm 05:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry my mistake --Peavey5150 17:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

The Corpse Paint and demon traits.

There's something I feel should be mentioned. I've noticed that half of the time (Maybe even most of the time) Dethklok DOESN'T wear corpse paint during their performances. I haven't counted, but there are a significant number of episodes where the band performs without makeup, some examples being Dethtroll, Bluesklok, and even the season finale The Metalocalypse has Begun.

Secondly, the article doesn't specifically say what demon traits the band has demonstrated. I'm not an expert on wikipedia standards, but I don't see the purpose of mentioning something like that, but not giving examples. 24.255.163.136 23:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Album News

Im not sure where to put this since the album page was taken away, but according to this link (http://metalinjection.net/blog/2006/12/27/latest-news-dethklok-carnivore-god-forbid-and-pantheon-i/), the drummer from Strapping Young Lad, Gene Holgan, will be playing the drums for the album. It also says the recording is taking place in Bomb Shelter Studios in L.A. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.193.125.182 (talk) 22:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC).

FBL?

When the Ryan Seacrest character on the Dethklok Minute makes the announcement for MILFs, G-Milfs and FBLs, what is that last one? Chris 05:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Umm he dose not say FBL he says Soon to be MILFs. User:Peavey5150 18:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering what FBL's were also after I heard that.Karpsmöm 05:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

He doesn't actually say it, it shows up on the screen. Chris 05:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh means fucking beautiful lady User:Peavey5150 21:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Coffee Jingle

Dunno why, but the jingle keeps changing between static text and a link to a dead file for me, depending on how I refresh it. Whoever wants to fix it, the new url is http://www.zacowens.com/e107_files/downloads/Dethklok%20-%20Duncan%20Hills%20Coffee.mp3 Ahanix1989 05:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Running Gags

Is a "running gags" section appropriate? I have seen it with other wiki pages for TV shows. An example for Metalocalypse would be their use of the word "zazz"...or perhaps it should be at least noted that the show is "canon" enough to refer to events in past episodes, such as the constant presence of their ill-fated "deathfones"...Thesetrixaintforkids

It sounds good to me. It would zazz up the article.. you know, make it zazzier. MGlosenger 23:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Second, not a bad idea to have such running gags, the DethPhones especially. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I certainly think a general mention that the show does keep continuity might be good to see, particularly given how many other Adult Swim shows that have similar quirky content do not. Bitnine 00:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking this myself, since many episodes start with (or at least feature a moment with) Nathan screaming out of rage and the camera zooming down his throat.Karpsmöm 01:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, then we can compile a list and debate each gags suitability for the list, and if its long enough, and relevant, maybe make a go at it?

• Zazz
• Deathfones
• Dethklok's inability to complete the simplest of tasks, except contract negotiations (I THINK this happens more than once, correct me if Im wrong.)
• Murderface's Kennedy limo
• Skwiskgaar and his odd/indiscriminate taste in women...(BBW in one scene, the GMILF jokes, the preggo he's fucking in a music video...)
• Rockso the Rock n Roll clown...I do cocaine! (maybe just more of a recurring character)
• Murderface and piss
• Toki and Skwisgaar's religious ambiguity

This may be the appropriate section (finally) for the wink wink references to metal can be included, like the three Cannibal Corpse songs featured in Nathans rant in one episode and the burger joint named after Dimmu Borgir.

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The time the show is on

I would imagine that alot of people aren't aware of when the show is on, cos you don't hear about it often, and it isn't mentioned in this article unless i'm blind, but can someone put in here that Metalocalypse is on Mon-Thurs at 12:15AM, that way everyone can be aware that that is the showing of the show.--4.154.250.5 20:36, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a TV guide. That's why we have links to TV.com and Adult Swim in the infobox. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Fictional In-Character

Hm, taking at look at the opening section, I'm pretty sure that saying that Nathan Explosion posted a blog entry to a real-world blog is perhaps a touch too in-universe and could stand to be slightly reworded. At the moment, I'm not coming up with a phrase that isn't a little awkward, so I figured I'd mention it here. Bitnine 17:17, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

And really, thinking about it, you could say that there is a group called DethKlok in real life, it's Brendon Small et al doing performances. He simply presents the music, album, and other materials (such as the MySpace page) in-character, giving attributions to the fictional show characters. Bitnine 19:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)