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Q1: Why is this described as a parody religion? Who determines whether or not a religion is a parody?

A1: Reliable sources. There is unanimity among reliable, third-party sources that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a satire. Moreover, founder Bobby Henderson is implied to have said it was in an interview with USA Today. "I don't know if (the FSM parody) makes a difference," Henderson says. "People who really need to get it aren't probably listening. But if anything, it might bring some awareness to undecided people out there." [1] In any case, Wikipedia's standard for inclusion is verifiability, not truth. The bottom line is that we report what reliable sources have said.

Q2: This offends me, a true Pastafarian, or could offend others. Should Wikipedia really be deliberately offending others?

A2: Putting aside whether a "true Pastafarian" exists, Wikipedia is not censored for one group or another, even if that means offending some people.

Q3: Why does such an "insignificant" topic deserve such a long article?

A3: Simply put, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is notable. It has been mentioned in detail by news sources throughout the world. In the US, the New York Times, USA Today, Washington Post and many others wrote about it. In the UK, The Guardian, The Daily Telegraph, BBC and others wrote about it. In Germany, Der Spiegel wrote about it. In Canada, the Toronto Star wrote about it. In Australia, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation wrote about it. Even the Council of Europe mentioned the Flying Spaghetti Monster in a report about Creationism in science standards, and this is not to mention its ubiquity among online technology sites and notable blogs. Like it or not, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is famous. A comprehensive presentation requires a certain length.

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RM, Flying Spaghetti Monster → Pastafarianism, not moved, 14 July 2011, Talk:Flying Spaghetti Monster/Archive 9#Requested move
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Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2020

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Add Israel to the list of states and countries where licenses have been accepted or denied. The person whose license was accepted is Michael Afanasyev, and the year it was issued was 2016. Verifiable at the following [2] Ironyisstrongwiththisone (talk) 09:28, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 13:54, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2020

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Please change the List of identity photo applications with headgear to include the UK. SOURCE: https://www.spaghettimonster.org/2015/10/uk-license-headgear/ Fantanoo (talk) 18:30, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Thank you, but Wikipedia relies on third-party reliable sources. The source you provided is more akin to a blog about an email message with no evidence of a fact-checking mechanism. On a quick, hardly exhaustive search I failed to find an appropriate source from a reputable outlet known for fact-checking. If you can find one, please provide it. BiologicalMe (talk) 17:23, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2020

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Add Portugal to the list of Headgear in identity photos. The request to take the photo with headgear for the national identity card (cartão de cidadão) was rejected. News story from a reputable source: https://www.jn.pt/nacional/portugues-impedido-de-usar-escorredor-de-massa-na-foto-do-cartao-de-cidadao-13060973.html

Official document from IRN (Portuguese Institute of Registration and Notary Affairs): https://irn.justica.gov.pt/Portals/33/Doutrina/Pareceres%20do%20Conselho%20Consultivo/Registo%20%20Civil-Balc%C3%A3o%20das%20Heran%C3%A7as%20e%20Div%C3%B3rcio%20com%20Partilha/2020/19_CC_2020.pdf?ver=2020-11-20-114725-593 Dbarciela (talk) 19:54, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Thanks Dbarciela. I'm happy to add this, but I can't read Portuguese. So could you let us know the name of the person making the request, and the date? Optionally, if you could provide an English translation of the titles of both sources, that would be helpful. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 13:05, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request, "social movement" should be "religion"

Verifiable sources note it as a religion. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/18/pasta-strainers-and-pirates-how-the-church-of-the-flying-spaghetti-monster-was-born https://apnews.com/article/06c11b92f92d427a8a38b5f1ab583080 https://www.chron.com/politics/article/Homeowners-Religious-Freedom-Act-texas-bill-16047281.php https://www.newsweek.com/i-pastafari-church-flying-spaghetti-monster-interview-1515169 https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-wonderfully-weird-people-worship-a-flying-spaghetti-monster https://www.wired.com/2007/11/flying-spaghetti-monster/ 2601:243:1381:A0:D15F:65D4:CFA9:6124 (talk) 16:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redundancy

"... opposes the teaching of intelligent design and creationism in public schools."

"Intelligent Design" is Creationism. Dover Area Schoolboard --Desertphile (talk) 14:58, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]