Talk:Ryan Kavanaugh

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Should this article be deleted? It appears to have no citations other than the company website. Luna Bars 4 Lyfe (talk) 20:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Good suggestion. I will mark it for BLP PROD. --Jprg1966 ^(talk) 20:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I have only found two sources that could be used for this article. Both of which do not have enough information to support some of the personal life claims. Also, when I went to look at the edit history I noticed one of the recent edits was done by someone attempting to create a "bio" for Ryan Kavanaugh leading me to believe they have a bias on the topic. Luna Bars 4 Lyfe (talk) 20:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Obviously the above colloquy is long outdated. The article is hugely relevant (and hugely long). Quis separabit? 23:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Lawsuits & Controversies Deleted

For some reason the Lawsuits & Controversies section was deleted in it's entirety by someone who just joined Wiki as an editor. The page was subsequently locked for editing. It seems like a conflict of interest to me. This should be fixed? Emh96 (talk) 13:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

This references since proven false actions from 5-15 years ago that only first appeared on this page a few months ago by a paid vandal.

Yes, seems like someone associated with Ryan has been doing some spring-cleaning of this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.236.174.11 (talk) 10:25, 9 Aug 2021 (UTC)

The opposite Ethan Klein and H3 have attempted to attack it. Why has information, proven to be false, which was never prior on the page added 5 years later but the relevant information present day not Aug 2021 (CST)

Please note:

The Controversies and lawsuits section was first added by an IP account as can be seen from the page's history. A look at the history of the page reveals that there has been series of such IPs vandalizing the page which has necessitated regular protection of the page.

Moreover the "Controversies and lawsuits" added clearly violated the wiki policy stated at WP:BLP. Read it here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#People_accused_of_crime

The information on those 2 sources cited are mere accusations and false which the enemies of Ryan are fronting. Besides the accusation are not proven and the case is still under litigation. If this is case, such a claim cannot be added on the Wiki page of a Living person in line with the policy cited above.

Furthermore, it appears that another older user added the "Controversies and lawsuits" again recently since Ip and other newer accounts have been barred from editing the page. This inclusion has copyvio issues as has been discovered by User:DanCherek. That's why it has been removed and reported to the admin. The inclusion clearly violated the dicates of WP:BLP.Laskiam1010 (talk) 12:25, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

I removed some text solely due to copyright issues; that should not be used as a cudgel in this content dispute. In fact, I've now restored some sourced material that was removed without a valid reason. The WP:BLP policy is a protection against unsourced or poorly-sourced contentious material, but information is being summarized from reliable sources including Variety (see WP:VARIETY). DanCherek (talk) 12:55, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Notice to all, the page has been temporarily restored to the last stable version as edited by ChrisTakey (talk | contribs) at 10:51, 11 August 2021 pending the outcome of the matter here. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Ryan_Kavanaugh

A consensus is required here. Yaxı Hökmdarz (talk) 06:48, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Ryan_Kavanaugh

Ryan Kavanaugh falls under WP:PUBLICFIGURE and the disputes should be included in his article. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:53, 12 September 2021 (ved.

It seems that, according to WP:PUBLICFIGURE, some of the Controversies section (which included accusations of crime for which Ryan Kavanaugh was not convicted) should be restored:

"In the case of public figures, there will be a multitude of reliable published sources, and BLPs should simply document what these sources say. If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article—even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out."

The Variety article source being the only source for the Ponzi scheme accusation should probably be left out because there are not multiple reliable third-party sources documenting it. However, being arrested a second time for a DUI was reported in New York Times (https://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothypomerantz/2013/04/17/why-ryan-kavanaugh-is-now-the-most-watched-man-in-hollywood/), WENN (https://www.imdb.com/news/ni0623087), and later referenced in Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothypomerantz/2013/04/17/why-ryan-kavanaugh-is-now-the-most-watched-man-in-hollywood/), so it certainly is noteworthy, relevant, and well

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2021

The newly added information is part of a paid disinformation campaign is is refuted by newer more reputable articles. H3 podcast has paid editors to add the new content which is not “new” but part of a malicious disinformation campaign intended on smearing R.Kavanaugh. This needs a thorough review and those editors making these changes should be thoroughly investigated for being paid to harm a party knowingly. RK777713 (talk) 07:03, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@RK777713: What newly added information, specifically? And which editors are adding the content in question? Please name them. ––FormalDude talk 08:30, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:14, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

User:JK.Kite has been trying along with two others since July to add in a “controversies” section and to delete anything positive but add negative. This stems from a podcast owner Ethan Klein of H3 as we initiated a litigation against them for copyright infringement. He has gone a public smear campaign and paid editors to try to include misleading and twisted negative statements (this can all be directly traced to him). Most telling is the articles and posts in question come from sources that are 3-10 years old and her only for the last 40 days have they tried to keep adding this section. It is misleading as the press they source in the very same articles state that the allegations were proven false and in accurate and there has been dozens of articles posted after the date of these refuting the claims they keep trying to publish. The only party to raise these claims and attempt to spin them as face is Ethan Klein of H3 on the exact same dates these editors keep trying to add the controversy section even though they range from. A decade old to 3 years old and all have publically been proven false. RK777713 (talk) 21:23, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Jk.kite should be investigated and certainly will be added into our current suit against H3 and Ethan Klein.

Here was the initial suit

RK777713 (talk) 21:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

I find it interesting he is so focused on trying to add in info that ass proven false from years ago but isn’t seeming to care about updating the page to add I. Any info which is written about regarding 2018 to present which is much more prominent and well sourced. Since it is all positive it clearly doesn’t fit their agenda RK777713 (talk) 21:28, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@RK777713: It would appear most of the contributions added by JK.Kite have been removed. Is there any content remaining in the article that is not suitable for Wikipedia? ––FormalDude talk 22:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Looks like someone fixed it. Thank you. Maybe you can advise as there is nothing added since 2018 and a lot of press of recent activities. It seems I shouldn’t be adding things so is there a way to add sourced things that have been relevant? Thanks for the advice RK777713 (talk) 22:37, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

For example this one https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/triller-ryan-kavanaugh/ RK777713 (talk) 22:38, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

@RK777713: I left a message on your talk page about editing with a potential conflict of interest. You are certainly able to request edits to the page if you think there is beneficial encyclopedic information to add. See WP:EDITREQ for more info. ––FormalDude talk 22:41, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

There is the matter of claiming to add editors here to a lawsuit that needs to be cleared up. I would recommend RK777713 look at WP:NLT and clarify their intentions before proceeding with anything further. I'm not an admin and I only added this here for their benefit. --ARoseWolf 20:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

You have got to be joking. Some person here who thinks they can threaten editors with legal action? And we're placating him? Prinsgezinde (talk) 04:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Shameful that a person can scrub his own article like this so openly, all controversies should be brought back ASAP! buræquete 22:09, 22 November 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buræquete (talk • contribs)

@FormalDude: I am shocked to see how this has unfolded. As it appears, you have accommodated a COI editor threatening legal action against another editor. This editor should have been reported right then and there. Adding a COI notice to their talk page was hardly the most appropriate course of action at stage. Not to mention that the reliably sourced content removed by the COI editor remained scrubbed after all of this. Unbelievable… Throast (talk | contribs) 01:45, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

@Throast: Obviously I didn't see their legal threat, but I did not "accommodate" them. I have not even edited this article, so spare me the pearl-clutching. You've restored it now anyways, problem solved. ––FormalDude ^talk 01:58, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

@FormalDude: Sorry for taking legal threats on Wikipedia seriously. According to your user page, you want to be alerted when you have made a mistake. Read more thoroughly, especially when dealing with an obviously volatile COI editor. Thanks. Throast (talk | contribs) 02:04, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

I didn't make a mistake, as there was nothing I did wrong. I just could have handled it better. Thanks for the feedback. ––FormalDude ^talk 02:07, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

RK accused by ex partner of running a ponzi scheme.

This and other controversies should be added to RK wiki page. 2603:8081:2100:B67:7DBA:35FD:F9C1:6FB3 (talk) 22:47, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Vandals on my site

Why are people writing misleading and innaurate info that is paid by Ethan Klein and h3 and proven to be false? For 5 years it was never on my site and now that Ethan Klein has publically attacked me and threatened to use wiki to destroy my reputation he is able to just pay someone to do it? Why would 5 year old disproven falsehoods make their way only in the last few months for the first time (only since h3 podcast publically said this was what they were going to do) and yet the very recent positive multiply sourced and relevant info not? How can Wikipedia allow this? Especially since the editors have worked with h3 and Ethan prior? 2603:8001:9301:737:30FE:B0F7:7DAB:3587 (talk) 07:04, 23 November 2021 (UTC)