Talk:British Empire

Hong Kong

Bringing it here for a centralised discussion. Could @Bullhuss5: cite which authors consider it a "controversy" that the handover of Hong Kong marked the End of Empire? WCM_email 06:43, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@Wee Curry Monster: I know it's so stupid --Aaron106 (talk) 21:39, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Ellis Is.

In the map, there is a Pacific island territory labeled "Ellis Is." I think it's a typographical error and is supposed to be "Ellice Islands" as in "Gilbert and Ellice Islands," the former British territory that would become the modern nations of Kiribati and Tuvalu respectively. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 12:41, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Wehai

I'm wondering if the territory labeled "Weihai" on the map should more properly be labeled "British Weihaiwei" since "Weihai" (also called Port Edward) was the name of the capital of the leased territory. Even if the two names are in some contexts synonymous or interchangeable by some standards (I'm not aware that they are), I would think "British Weihaiwei" would be less likely to cause ambiguity or confusion. 66.91.36.8 (talk) 13:05, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Britain had parts of France

If you are counting before the empire or even before Great Britain was formed than ignore this but England had a lot of territory in France during the 100 years war. The territory included Normandy and Anjou.

Thank you for reading. 79.64.4.61 (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

I don't think they ever did. Kings of England had territories in France which they had held before ascending the English throne. William the Conqueror for example was Duke of Normany before becoming King of England. This would put France in a similar category with Hanover, which was ruled by the Hanoverian kings but was not considered to be part of the Empire. TFD (talk) 23:47, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

"England had a lot of territory in France"? I thought France had a lot of territory in England, with some claiming it still does. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 01:11, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

I own several coins which show the French coat of arms imposed next to the Scottish/Irish/English ones, but the French coat of arms was removed 200 years ago when Britain dropped its claim to the French throne. --2A00:23C4:3E08:4000:14BC:1454:BB6C:619C (talk) 12:29, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Upper Yaffa

Why is there no Upper Yaffa on the map? SPRVTL (talk) 15:47, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

it sort of is, as it will be part of the area covering the Aden protectorate.Slatersteven (talk) 16:04, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikilinks

I see that various Wikilinks seem to be re-added following a general purge of overlinking during the FAR review. Is this something we want to work on? WCM_email 10:02, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

A number of geographic links were added in this diff. Quite of a few of them seemed too broad (and the contemporary states were already linked), so I've removed most. Some are still left and you might want to link over them yourself as I'm not convinced the remaining ones are necessary either. More broadly, non-specific links (i.e. those not pointing to an event/state/war directly connected with the empire), such as slavery (Atlantic slave trade, Triangular trade and History of slavery are already linked), mortality rate, religious persecution etc.) could perhaps be cut. They might help readers with less general knowledge though, so it's a trade-off. Also, I can also see a few piped links that make their target unclear (e.g. "laden with treasure", "Parliament decreed in 1651", "while on a scientific voyage"), maybe the text should be adjusted slightly so their target is explicitly named? I don't think it'd take much work, so I'm happy to do this if you think it helpful. I've also removed a few duplicate links. All that said, as long as the links aid the reader I personally don't mind slightly heavier linking than normal, given that it's such a broad overview article. Jr8825 • Talk 13:31, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

I think a number of unhelpful changes were made because of that misbegotten FAR, including supposed 'overlinking'. In my view, in a large article, it's quite difficult to find the single permitted hyperlink for a given term that I want to follow up on. I then have to type it out, which is annoying. And more generally, in relation to the policy, removing hyperlinks kind of undermines one of the primary benefits of this whole 'internet' thingymajig... I don't think we should spend personal time being too pedantic about this. Wiki-Ed (talk) 22:36, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm still fairly raw about the FAR myself but after we worked hard on getting this article to FA status I really don't want to let it slide. It's noticeable that those commenting on the FAR appear to have disappeared, I'm still waiting to be shown how to treat the topics it was claimed were needed. WCM_email 08:16, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I have a map that is a more detailed list of territories that were ever conquered or claimed by the British no occupations are inculded