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Draft rejected - why exactly?

Dear Theroadislong (talk · contribs), thanks for your quick review. However, I cannot share your assessment that a promotional article would have been written here. What sections or sentences are written like this? Can you give details?

In my opinion, a promotional article would contain no statement about criticism of the company. Also such an article would certainly say nothing about the data leak/data theft. Even about lobbying, ie representation of interests or influencing, such an article would certainly give nothing.

This article is a translation from the de.wikipedia.org. There it has not been criticized, although many Wikipedians observe it.

When writing it, I made sure that neutrality was ensured. With the history section, I believe no one can advertise a company. The history section is based in part on two business-related sources. These are anniversary publications that show stages of corporate development. In some cases I referred on business reports of OTTO. But the section on history also refers to many sources that have nothing to do with EOS or OTTO. These are for example:

Other sections also use sources like:


I thought again: Are there any possibilities of reduction? I can see that in the section on business figures. I have shortened the section significantly. In my opinion this also underlines that no advertising has been done.

What do you think? Atomiccocktail (talk) 09:29, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional terms

Comment: Promotional terms include for example "The EOS Group has more than 55 operating companies with locations in 26 countries" "regarded as Germany’s largest debt collection provider" " quickly developed into one of the largest debt collecting companies in the Federal Republic of Germany" "EOS says that it covers 180 countries along with its partner organisations" " It dominates the financial services segment within the Group" Theroadislong (talk) 09:56, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Dear Theroadislong (talk · contribs),

Thank you for your immediate feedback. I moved the discussion to the disc page. I think that suits better here.

I made some changes.

  • I changed the first sentence. Now there are no more numbers given.
  • A source is given for the statement "regarded as Germany's largest debt collection provider".
  • You're right: "quickly developed into one of the largest ...." I deleted the "quickly" and specified a source.
  • The statement "It dominates the financial services segment within the Group" now has three sources from different years: Wirtschaftswoche, Handelsblatt and OTTO's latest annual report.
  • "EOS says it covers 180 countries along with its partner organizations." I deleted this sentence without substitution.

Thanks for your hints. What do you think? Is that OK? Atomiccocktail (talk) 14:09, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Theroadislong (talk · contribs), would you like to take another look at last changes? Is the draft ok now? Atomiccocktail (talk) 15:50, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You are being paid to edit, I am not, I have no further help to offer. Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request (2020-07-30: some updates and additions)

Hello everyone, there is some new information available. I would be grateful if someone could include them in the article. Thank you very much in advance. Atomiccocktail (talk) 14:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

a) Infobox
Revenue was EUR 853,1 million (fiscal 2019/20);[1] Number of employees was 7,578 (fiscal 2019/20)[1]

b) Introduction of the article
Canada should be added.

The EOS Group is a holding company that operates financial services companies with locations in Europe,[2] in the United States and Canada.[3][4]

c) Chapter "Since 2005"
It should be added at the end of the section:

At the end of 2018, the Group sold Health AG and the Swiss Zahnärztekasse AG to BAWAG P.S.K.[5]

d) Chapter "Organisation and locations"
The year could be updated.

At the beginning of the year 2020[1] the group included more than 60 operating companies.[6] It has established locations in 26 countries[7] in Europe[2] and North America.[3]

e) Chapter "Financial information"
Revenue should be updated. Refs at the end could be shortened.

In 2019/20 the company achieved a revenue of 853,1 million euros.[1] Since 2005, credit rating agency Euler Hermes Rating has consistently awarded EOS Holding the rating A.[8][9]

References

  1. ^ a b c d "EOS Annual Report 2019/2020" (PDF). Website of EOS. Retrieved 2020-07-22.
  2. ^ a b PricewaterhouseCoopers (2017-10-15). "Redefiningthe non-core. PwC Europe's distressed debt market overview" (PDF). www.pwc.at. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
  3. ^ a b Ryan, Greg (2015-12-07). "Mass. firm fined for collecting on allegedly bogus AT&T debt". Boston Business Journal. Retrieved 2019-01-17.
  4. ^ "EOS Canada Inc". Dun & Bradstreet. Retrieved 2020-07-28.
  5. ^ Bawag steigt ins Zahn-Factoring ein [Bawag enters into tooth factoring]. Börsen-Zeitung, 2018-12-22.
  6. ^ "Wechsel in der Geschäftsführung der EOS Gruppe" [Change in the management of the EOS Group]. www.business-on.de (in German). 2017-01-19. Retrieved 2019-01-16.
  7. ^ "Sensible Schuldnerdaten eines Inkassounternehmens öffentlich gemacht". Wired (German edition) (in German). 2017-12-27. Retrieved 2019-01-16.
  8. ^ EOS-Konzern veröffentlicht Geschäftszahlen und erhält Ratingnote A. In: versandhausberater.de, 2010-09-03.
  9. ^ "Finanzinvestor EOS erhält A-Rating" [Financial investor EOS receives A rating]. goingpublic.de (in German). 2020-07-02. Retrieved 2020-07-28.
@Atomiccocktail:  Done –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 03:22, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request (2022-02-01: minor update)

Hello all. Here comes a proposal (paid edit) for an update.

1) The info box should be updated.

Klaus Engberding should be replaced there by Marwin Ramcke.[1]

2) The last sentence in the History section should now be:

On February 1, 2022, Marwin Ramcke took over as CEO.[1]

  1. ^ a b Chefwechsel bei Otto-Tochter Eos (Change of CEO at Otto subsidiary Eos). Börsen-Zeitung, January 13, 2022.

I would be happy if the proposal would be implemented. Many thanks in advance. Atomiccocktail (talk) 08:06, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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