User talk:Firefangledfeathers

Discretionary sanctions awareness notices (reviewed September 25, 2021)

Moved notice at WP:LGBT

Just stopping by to let you know I've moved your RfC notice to the project's talk page, which is where I assume you meant to put it. If that's incorrect, feel free to revert. Have a happy new year. Isabelle ^🔔 23:46, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for doing that! Thanks to your fix, I realized I had cleanup to do at two other wikiprojects. Hope the bells ring in a happy new year to you as well. Firefangledfeathers 23:48, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

A nugget from the past

jpxg recently linked a thread where you said the quote below while discussing a related matter in COIN, and I was rereading the thread just now. The quote is still one of the funniest responses I've seen on wikipedia so I thought you might also enjoy reading it again as well.

I am both a greatly exaggerated witch and a greatly exaggerated communist, and if you persist in argument-by-comparison-to-historical-travesty I'll hex you and collectivize your capital.

Hope you've had some restful holidays and have enjoyed the new year so far. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 09:00, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks A.C.! Happy new year! Firefangledfeathers 16:27, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Article request

Nobody appears to have noticed the (now gone) request on the Lee Harvey Oswald article to correct the paragraph regarding Harry Holmes on the “Police interrogation” section which should be reflected to say “Holmes (who attended the interrogation at the invitation of Captain Will Fritz) said that Oswald replied that he was at the “front entrance to the first floor” when he encountered a policeman.” Could you do it, as I was the one who suggested you in the first place?213.107.50.37 (talk) 09:47, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Let's get a conversation going at the article talk page. Firefangledfeathers 16:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

The current words, “went downstairs where he encountered Baker” give the impression Oswald said the encounter took place at the second floor lunchroom but Holmes clarifies that Oswald was talking about encountering the officer at the vestibule on the first floor by the front entrance. Holmes describes two set of doors which were in the building vestibule (which were a front lobby between two set of doors). I propose the paragraph could be rewritten to reflect Holmes’ testimony something like: “Oswald said he was at the first floor vestibule by the front entrance and wanted to see what the “commotion” was when he encountered an officer.”213.107.50.218 (talk) 18:02, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy ping

Hey, thanks for the courtesy ping at WP:COIN. On top of notifying me after the broken ping, it also taught me that editing pings doesn't always work, which I was not aware of. Much appreciated! AlexEng^(TALK) 10:56, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

@AlexEng: you're welcome! I'm sure you'll get a chance to pay it forward. Firefangledfeathers 18:08, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Good catch on George Reeves

That range has been nothing but trouble for months. I gave them a 3 month vacation. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 02:42, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

OhNoitsJamie, don't come here and pretend like we're friends. We're beefing now because you reverted me. Sure you self-reverted seconds later, but my honor has been slighted. I demand a duel, either in Weehawken or WP:VPP. Firefangledfeathers 02:50, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh snap. Gonna go work on a diss track (...what rhymes with Weehawken?) OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 04:48, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Daveed Diggs may be able to help with your research. Firefangledfeathers 04:52, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Preferred pronouns?

Hi! I forgot which pronouns you preferred being referred by. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 11:55, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi A. C.! They/them, please. Firefangledfeathers 13:32, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Perfect :)A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 13:38, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Peter McCullough

This man is the most published author in his field, and one of the most qualified people in the country, perhaps the world, so speak about Covid 19. To label his statements as misinformation is a clear indicator that you have either never heard the man speak for himself or you’re more interested in promoting propaganda than the truth. 166.182.84.132 (talk) 03:03, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

You're presenting it as either/or, but both things are true. I've only ever heard the man speak through an intermediary using a tin can telephone, and on my good days I'm equally interested in straight-talkin' and brain-washin'. Firefangledfeathers 03:12, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Joe Manchin’s Italian surname

Good morning.

I know that the source says "Mancini" but the surname is Mancina. I come from the city of his ancestors and I can assure you that no one has the surname Mancini but many people have the surname Mancina, which is one of the most common: I myself have some ancestors with the surname Mancina.

Joe Manchin even came to my town and visited some of his relatives who have the surname Mancina.

I know that unfortunately the source says “Mancini”, but it is not telling the truth. —Samuele1607 (talk) 08:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Samuele1607, I am copied your comment to Talk:Joe Manchin and replied there. Firefangledfeathers 16:22, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers: Perfect. Thank you! :-) --Samuele1607 (talk) 21:04, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Native Americans in the United States

Sorry, I skimmed the comments, but edited my own comments. I'm just so weary of having to revert various IP user's decisions to arbitrary switch American Indian to Native American in articles to create crazy concoctions like "Native American Land" or the "Native American Arts and Crafts Act." Sadly, some newspapers do this as well. Have a great weekend! Yuchitown (talk) 16:48, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Yuchitown

I saw your comment pre-edit, but it didn't occur to me that the 'stop beating this dead horse' sentiment was directed at me! Thanks for your work reverting the nonsense, and I hope this particular batch goes away soon. Firefangledfeathers 16:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Ethereum/crypto categories

You've removed one I put in for Hoskinson. I based this on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_Buterin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Wood, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Wood. These have been stable for a while. Also, Hoskinson is a co-founder of 2 successful cryptos, cardano and Ethereum, whereas Buterin is just Ethereum. So I don't understand your logic. Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreyStar456 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi GreyStar456. See WP:CATSPECIFIC, which states

Each categorized page should be placed in all of the most specific categories to which it logically belongs. This means that if a page belongs to a subcategory of C (or a subcategory of a subcategory of C, and so on) then it is not normally placed directly into C.

The guideline goes on to list the exceptions, and this case isn't one of them.

Thank you for point out the other pages with this issue. I am likely to make the same edit on those as well, though I'd prefer to get consensus with you before doing so. Firefangledfeathers 16:40, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. It seems to me that the rule makes no sense; and is so badly understood that it is not being applied. It's not justo in the crypto. Look at Carlos Ghosn. He is listed with: Nissan people, People in the automobile industry, Renault people, Automotive businesspeople, Mitsubishi. How is it possible to reduce all of these to just Renault, Nissan, or Mitsubishi when he has run all these companies? And what's the difference between People in the automobile industry and Automotive businesspeople? In Hoskinson's case, to force the issue, you'd have to create a Cardano page. Do you see what I mean? GreyStar456 (talk) 16:55, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome. Like most Wikipedia 'rules', application across this volunteer product is imperfect. We have a cadre of editors whose main work is adding/removing categories, and I'm optimistic that implementation of this rule in particular is trending in the right direction thanks to their efforts. When I can, I try to help. With Ghosn, he should be in Nissan and Renault people, removed from Mitsubishi, added to Mitsubishi Motors people, and removed from People in the automobile industry. People in the industry vs. businesspeople, I'd guess, is about whether or not the person is on the business side of things. For example L. David Ash, an automotive stylist, is correctly categorized in Category:People in the automobile industry and correctly excluded from the subcategory Category:Automotive businesspeople.

I'm not sure if you're seriously proposing it, but a Category:People associated with Cardano is a good idea, provided there are at least a few other articles that would belong there. So far, no other biography articles are linked from Cardano (blockchain platform), but perhaps you know of others? Firefangledfeathers 18:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't thing I've seen a page that is correctly categorised, so I think your cadre has a lot of work ahead of it! I'll take a look at the pages I've worked on and try to apply it. So Hoskinson should be Ethereum and Cardano. But not people associated with cryptocurrency? Ghosn's 3 car companies + overarching Automotive businesspeople makes sense to me; but I still don't see why Hoskinson's taken out of people associated with cryptocurrency. According to the criteria, won't all the crypto people be taken out, so the category just disappears?GreyStar456 (talk) 13:04, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't know how many Cardano people there would be, but there are at least 2 Edinburgh professors on Wiki who are helping build Cardano. How many people does it take to make a category? GreyStar456 (talk) 13:06, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

GreyStar456, you're right about there being a lot of work! Good thing there's no deadline. Yes, categories are sometimes so thoroughly divided up that they contain only subcategories and no direct article links. Sometimes this is intentional. Three articles would be enough, I think, for a new category. Are the professors verifiably involved in Cardano, and is it mentioned in their articles? Firefangledfeathers 04:36, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions topic area changes

In a process that began last year with WP:DS2021, the Arbitration Committee is evaluating Discretionary Sanctions (DS) in order to improve it. A larger package of reforms is slated for sometime this year. From the work done so far, it became clear a number of areas may no longer need DS or that some DS areas may be overly broad.

The topics proposed for revocation are:

• Senkaku islands
• Waldorf education
• Ancient Egyptian race controversy
• Scientology
• Landmark worldwide

The topics proposed for a rewording of what is covered under DS are:

• India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan
• Armenia/Azerbaijan

Additionally any Article probation topics not already revoked are proposed for revocation.

Community feedback is invited and welcome at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Motions. --Barkeep49 (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Infobox RFC

Sorry 'bout that. Didn't notice there was already a third party :) Perhaps the RFC-in-question, should be moved to a sandbox. GoodDay (talk) 03:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

I am working on some draft language and will post it there soon. Don't think we need a sandbox but it's a good idea if we can't reach an agreement soon. Firefangledfeathers 03:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

I think the proposed-RFC has been aborted. GoodDay (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

What did I copy so I can change it?

Please let me know what I copied so I can reword it SeminoleNation (talk) 19:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@SeminoleNation:, it looks like much of your added content was copied from or closely paraphrased from the Britannica article. See WP:CLOP. Please also see WP:REDLINK for why those wikilink removals was inadvisable. Glancing at the subjects, it seems likely that they would be valid articles. Firefangledfeathers 20:01, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers: Okay I see. I tried to paraphrase that britannica article as much as I could in the first paragraph. Most of the rest was in my own words and I restructured some things to flow better. I'll go back and rework it. Give me a sec --SeminoleNation (talk) 20:34, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

NPOV discussion closure

I was reading Talk:Peter A. McCullough and I saw that you closed the discussion about WP:NPOV. Later I realized that before closing the discussion you were reverting changes similar to the POV notice made by the user who created that discussion. This shows that you were involved in the discussion and thus you are not a fit arbitrator. It would be nice this closure was changed without me needing to request a closure review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.44.174.215 (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP 41, I am unlikely to re-open that discussion. I stand by my reasons for doing so, and I have every reason to believe that closing the discussion led to less wasting of time by good-faith editors. Since my closure was unrelated to the merits of the content dispute, I wouldn't read the closure as a sign that you couldn't start up a similar, new discussion at the talk page. Firefangledfeathers 22:28, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

FAR template limits

EOAD ( :) Templates like  Done are discouraged at FAC and FAR because they can cause the archives to reach Wikipedia:Template limits, which wreaks all kinds of havoc; when you get a chance, could you switch them to prose? Thanks for the help there! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:35, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

@SandyGeorgia: you remembered! Thanks for teaching me that. Now  Fixed. Firefangledfeathers 01:54, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

B Of course I did :) So happy when anyone helps in the dementia realm. Bst, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:51, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.156.215.54.243 (talk) 18:34, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Tim Pool

Look, I'm sorry. It's just that the internet had been leaning right and considered TimCast as a "popular" podcast. I'm just want to show everyone the truth. Can we work together to make a version that represents consensus? He is a Republican! Hadn't you seen his content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Page Fixer (talk • contribs) 04:23, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, The Page Fixer. I appreciate your apology. I highly recommend looking for reliable sources that support your view and then bringing them up for discussion at Talk:Tim Pool. Please be careful when editing the article, as the rules are a bit tighter when it comes to biographies of living people and topic areas under discretionary sanctions, including American politics. Firefangledfeathers 04:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

How can I delete my Wikipedia account?

I feel like I want to leave this site. How can I delete my Wikipedia account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Page Fixer (talk • contribs) 05:40, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

@The Page Fixer: Accounts can't technically be deleted, but asking for a courtesy vanishing is probably the closest available option. Firefangledfeathers 13:41, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

moving pages

hey there - saw your revert message, not sure how to move pages if you can point me in the right direction? Dzlinker \,,/(*_*)\,,/ 23:16, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Dzlinker, looks like you already started a requested move, so you're on the right track. They usually stay open for about a week, and a closer will determine consensus if it's not clear. Good luck! Firefangledfeathers 02:37, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Top, thanks! Dzlinker \,,/(*_*)\,,/ 10:20, 6 February 2022 (UTC)