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71.146.184.64

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71.146.184.64 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Ryan Ogren (filter log)
Description
I am trying to update Ryan Ogren's selected discography to include releases releases credited to him by A List music artists. I also deleted some older credits so that the discography was more selective.
Date and time
20:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Yep, it's a false positive. Rusty4321 talk contributions log 02:40, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done and a change to the filter may be needed. Rusty4321 talk contributions log 02:42, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No workable change possible. It's a shame that we have to do it this way, but there's no way to distinguish a good-faith edit with three combined instances of "slut" and "bitch" in it from a bad-faith one. And the vast majority will be bad-faith. Dealing with that restriction is part of the price of logged-out editing, just like running into semi-protected pages. Again, a shame, but unavoidable. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, despite saying that, I did get thinking about all the FPs we get for track listings. I tested 384 with added rules !(old_wikitext rlike "!\s*Album" & new_wikitext rlike "!\s*Album") and across the past 2,000 hits we would have had four sets of false negatives [1] [2] [3] [4] to this one avoided false positive. In the past 2,000 for 380, we have [5] [6] and [7]. Perhaps some much more complex regex could look specifically for additions to a track list table but I think that would be pretty tempermental. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:54, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pinned – This thread has been pinned and will not be archived until this template has been removed. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 05:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
See section 198.89.64.249 below as well, or, if archived, Special:PermaLink/1079986591#198.89.64.249. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Suffusion of Yellow: Do you see any way around these track-list FPs? One could do a more complex regex to whitelist the words in question when added to something with the heading "Track list" or similar, or containing "!Album", but there's a lot of variation in format. Whitelisting anything about albums would do more harm than good, I think. I'm still inclined to think these fall into the category of unavoidable FPs and, sadly, the cost of doing business for those who choose not to register accounts. Philosophically, anyone who edits as an IP trades on the collective good faith of other IPs, both in their allocated range and in general. If I wanted to edit logged-out on my mobile connection, I wouldn't be able to, because it's softblocked due to abuse by others on the network. If someone wants to in good faith add the word "slut" to articles while logged out, they can't, because that's been done in bad faith too many times by other IPs or non-AC users. So I think I'm comfortable WONTFIXing this... If it becomes more of an issue as we move more toward a world where profanity in works' titles and encyclopedically relevant quotes is more common (said uncritically! I'm no prude), I think the better solution would be moving FPs on profanity filters to an edit-request system rather than EFFP, and just telling people to temporarily save their edits in censored format. But I'm pinging you, SoY, because maybe in this case you can think of something elegant than I can. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 19:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Tracked in Phabricator
    Task T305011
    @Tamzin: I'm currently leaning with !(str_replace(new_wikitext, "|}", "@") irlike ("!\s*Album[^@]*(?:" + bad_word + ")")), which should, in theory, only allow edits inside the table. I hate the str_replace() hack, but using a negative lookahead gives a mysterious syntax error on a few hits (same as with 1112). It also won't help with prose (In 2022, he released his new single, "Let's Fuck This Shit Up" ...) but I guess it's better than nothing. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:22, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Suffusion of Yellow: If we're going to do that, would there be a way to also cover something like ==+\s*(songs|singles|track list(ing)?|albums|discography)\s*==+ ? Also, is there a reason to use @ there rather than, like, some unused Unicode codepoint? Oh also, one more question, while we're on the topic of 384 and 380, in 384, doesn't the current dick_names logic mean that "fuck Mr. Dick" would be an FN? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 21:39, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    As to @, no idea why, it was just the first character that came to mind. As to "fuck Mr. Dick", yes, but it would be best to test any such change in a log-only filter first. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:47, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Another example that may be of reference. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 22:08, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Tamzin, Suffusion of Yellow, and EpicPupper: Does the pinned template need to be removed yet? Rusty4321 talk contributions log 19:21, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rusty4321: Sorry, got sidetracked by the PHP bug. I still might do something about this. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:12, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
agreed 162.223.102.138 (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

47.218.200.214

Username
47.218.200.214 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Indian hedgehog (protein) (filter log)
Description
I was providing more descriptions about the functions of the Indian hedgehog gene based on recent studies.
Date and time
02:34, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Private – One or more of the filters triggered are private, and the request needs to be evaluated by an edit filter helper or manager. (automated comment) — MajavahBot (talk · contributions) 02:35, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done and a change to the filter may be needed. The first alternative matched "mature chond". I think the lookalike-character detection may be going overboard here. And that character class with 3, that caused the match seems in particular questionable. Pinned – This thread has been pinned and will not be archived until this template has been removed. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 03:19, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hegelaci

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Hegelaci (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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1924–25_Football_League (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
Chelsea was missing from the Greater London map of the 2nd Division. I've just tried to insert it. I think it's a minor edit and the previrw was fine.
Date and time
15:45, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Private – One or more of the filters triggered are private, and the request needs to be evaluated by an edit filter helper or manager. (automated comment) — MajavahBot (talk · contributions) 15:45, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done and a change to the filter may be needed. Refreshingly, the cause of this false positive is apparent just from looking at the filter name and what the edit was. I don't know enough about locator maps to know if this is something the filter needs to handle... the fact that it hasn't been an issue to date makes me think maybe not? I count 718 pages that use this feature of CSS, which isn't a lot, but also isn't a little. I dunno. Pinned – This thread has been pinned and will not be archived until this template has been removed. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 17:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


ForGranite

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ForGranite (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Wendell Kim (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
Adding a documented nickname for a former Major League Baseball third base coach, with a citation supporting that usage.
Date and time
17:06, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Done – The edit for this report has been implemented, however no changes to the filter were made. @ForGranite: I think you got a bit mixed up with your edit there. Instead of editing the "As coach and manager" section, you had overwritten the articles lede section with your updated version of that section. I've fixed that for you and made the edit as amended, but in the future, remember that you in the source editor you can preview an edit by clicking Show preview, or see a diff of your changes by clicking Show changes; in the Visual Editor you can see your preview in real time and can see a diff, in visual mode or source mode, by clicking Review changes. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:01, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I hadn't edited in a long time, and this technicality was beyond me. ForGranite (talk) 18:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2601:647:5800:1A1F:C54D:43E:AA67:CA78

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2601:647:5800:1A1F:C54D:43E:AA67:CA78 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ali_Khalifa_el-Zaidi (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
Attemping to relist discussion.
Date and time
20:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Private – One or more of the filters triggered are private, and the request needs to be evaluated by an edit filter helper or manager. (automated comment) — MajavahBot (talk · contributions) 20:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Garagehero1

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Garagehero1 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Poway (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
I was adding James David Buttolph, the famous composer who was a resident of the city of Poway.
Date and time
21:13, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Done and a change to the filter may be needed. {{effp|pin}} -- lomrjyo 🇺🇦 21:32, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) This is an interesting one. @Garagehero1:, it looks like you tried to add a link to James David Buttolph JR which didn't exist, so instead I added a link to David Buttolph, which does exist. I'm wondering if there is a way to check if the link contains part of an existing title. Checking with the edit filter managers to see if changes need to be made. -- lomrjyo 🇺🇦 21:48, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lomrjyo: Unfortunately, there's no way to directly check if a page exists. The filter is just looking for redlinks in the HTML of the parsed page, so I don't see a way to fix this. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:55, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Unpinning per above. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 02:22, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weenieballs

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Weenieballs (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Joe Locke (actor) (filter log)
Description
Date and time
21:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Report fixed – An automated bot has added the page title from last triggered filter to this report. (automated comment) — MajavahBot (talk · contributions) 21:40, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Declined – Edits were vandalism. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 02:21, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2600:387:A:982:0:0:0:16

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2600:387:A:982:0:0:0:16 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Capital High School (Boise, Idaho) (filter log)
Description
Date and time
00:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Report fixed – An automated bot has added the page title from last triggered filter to this report. (automated comment) — MajavahBot (talk · contributions) 00:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not done – In general, "notable people" lists and similar are only meant for people who already have articles about them. If you think this person meets our notability guidelines, please see Help:Your first article. If you think an exception should be made here, please discuss the matter on the article's talk page.
NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 00:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

67.173.23.66

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67.173.23.66 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
Page you were editing
Heir apparent (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
I was adding new entries to the list. Even though I copied the names directly from the article titles, it triggered the filter.
Date and time
03:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments

24.0.215.11

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24.0.215.11 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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User talk:24.0.215.11 (filter log)
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Date and time
03:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Report fixed – An automated bot has added the page title from last triggered filter to this report. (automated comment) — MajavahBot (talk · contributions) 03:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Private – One or more of the filters triggered are private, and the request needs to be evaluated by an edit filter helper or manager. (automated comment) — MajavahBot (talk · contributions) 03:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Parimi sanskrit

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Parimi sanskrit (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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[[8]] (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
I am adding details of topics covered by the poet in each chapter. I am using diacritics to represent certain sanskrit words such as Damayantī, Varuṇa, Kuṇḍina etc and wonder if the characters within such strings triggered the error
Date and time
03:48, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments

65.92.246.142

Username
65.92.246.142 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Stibb (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
I was adding a hatnote {{confused|Stibbe}} when out popped an error message It is almost never appropriate to add emoji and other Unicode icons (e.g. ♥, ☺, ☢, ☮) to Wikipedia articles. Except I have not used any non-ASCII character at all.
Date and time
04:02, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Done and a change to the filter may be needed. Oshwah, looks like you edited the Unicode/emoji filter today. Lots of these FPs have been popping up (see above). Any ideas why? Cheers! 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 04:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Could it be that the change has "X" capitalized? Just a wild guess. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 04:57, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@EpicPupper: I was just going to say that. The FPs started when you edited the filter osh, so I’m pretty sure you messed something up. Signed,The4lines |||| (Talk) (Contributions) 05:00, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

69.47.84.115

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69.47.84.115 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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iPhone OS 1 (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
Add an Update Type column to the iPhone OS 1 page, like the one on iOS 15.
Date and time
05:07, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments

2001:D08:DA:E967:A9B2:C984:5DD8:45B7

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2001:D08:DA:E967:A9B2:C984:5DD8:45B7 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Plunderer (manga) (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
I was editing Plunderer page as the manga had recently ended. However, when I tries to submit my edit, it often pop out an error message It is almost never appropriate to add emoji and other Unicode icons (e.g. ♥, ☺, ☢, ☮) to Wikipedia articles. Except I have not used any non-ASCII character at all.
Date and time
05:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments

{{subst:67.149.234.202}}

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[[User:{{subst:67.149.234.202}}|{{subst:67.149.234.202}}]] ([[User talk:{{subst:67.149.234.202}}|talk]] · [[Special:Contribs/{{subst:67.149.234.202}}|contribs]]) (filter log)
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Joshua Claybourn (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
Attempted to update page to include spouse(s) information in infobox. Information appears to have been deleted for no reason. Automated filter stated that use of emojis was not appropriate, however edit had no such emojis or unicode icons. Intended text can be referenced to https://public.courts.in.gov/mlpl/ and https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase#.
Date and time
05:11, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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AmericanSkyEagle

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AmericanSkyEagle (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Belo Horizonte
Description
I was putting a photo approved by wikipedia of Belo Horizonte and this automated filter stated that use of emojis was not appropriate, however edit had no such emojis or unicode icons.
Date and time
05:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments

108.6.237.202

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108.6.237.202 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Pontiac Bonneville (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
Added additional information in the assembly line in the infobox for the sixth generation (1977-1981). An additional factory location, a link to the Wikipedia page of the factory already listed previously, & a line break between the 2 factories. Preview shows everything OK. The error messsage keeps saying I'm putting emojis when I did not do so & the preview does not show that either.
Date and time
05:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments

150.101.89.147

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150.101.89.147 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Ouellette Avenue (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
I tried to add the following photo of Ouellette Avenue. " File:Downtown Windsor Ontario.JPG." It will not work. Thank you.
Date and time
05:54, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Seanbm1976

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Seanbm1976 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Page not specified
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Date and time
05:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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108.36.193.88

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108.36.193.88 (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Samm Levine (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
adding Samm Levine's official twitter feed link to his entry *Edit filter/False positives/Reports on X
Date and time
06:00, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Comments
Done and a change to the filter may be needed. Was on the fence about the merits of the edit, but decided that it was okay.  Requesting immediate archiving... as being handled above. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 06:54, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Emyir

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Emyir (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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2G (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
I was trying to add Norway´s operators to this phase out list. But I got blocked for vandalism for using emojis, which I didn't.
Date and time
06:32, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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Medsavan

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Medsavan (talk · contribs) (filter log)
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Naxalite–Maoist_insurgency (filter log) (user filter log)
Description
Editing Further reading section, couldn't make any simple changes
Date and time
06:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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