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Filter 931 — Flags: disabled
Last changed at 01:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Filter 1014 — Actions: <span style='color:red; Flags: disabled; Pattern modified

Last changed at 23:45, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Filter 1139 (new) — Actions: disallow; Flags: disabled,public; Pattern modified

Last changed at 21:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

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If you wish to request an edit filter, please post at Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested. If you would like to report a false positive, please post at Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives.

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Improving the EFR header[edit]

Can we improve Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested/Header somewhat? My proposal is at User:ProcrastinatingReader/sandbox9. Contains various changes from observing EFR over a period of time, and (now) having some experience of seeing requests through the lens of an EFM:

  • Requests without diffs, sometimes without even links to the relevant SPIs, are not motivating to take on (imo). Also providing diffs makes more clear what is actually requested in some cases.
  • Revdelled edits are a pain. A lot of requests seem to include revdelled edits, which I can't see. So that includes a note to email them to the list
  • Trim fluff / cut down on some of the extensive verbiage to make it more likely the notice is actually read + other copyedits
  • More clarity on sending details of LTA filters to the list, rather than public discussion (on that note, I think we're overusing private filters, but that's a future discussion). Include email rather than a link to WP:EFMAILING.

ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

If I'm allowed to comment as a non-EFM, then the changes appear sensible to me. I'd recommend updating the "click here to create a new section" to preload the new wikitext including the "diffs" line, but no doubt you've already thought of that :) ƒirefly ( t · c ) 15:25, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Not going to lie, I didn't even notice that button was there (somehow), never mind notice the preload needs updating! My eye scans material in strange ways, I guess. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
ProcrastinatingReader, Most of this looks great to me with two nitpicks:
The edit filter is primarily used to address common patterns of harmful editing. I think Edit filters areprimarily used to address common patterns of harmful editing. might be better, since technically its one system but there are multiple filters. It also feels a bit odd to establish the edit filter and then have people ask for a new one.
Not directly related but related to the edit notice, Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested right now states please consider emailing the edit filter mailing list at wikipedia-en-editfilters@lists.wikimedia.org. I feel like the wording could be changed here to something stronger. Asartea Talk | Contribs 09:43, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, done that copyedit. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
@ProcrastinatingReader: Looks good, except I'd leave out the line where there's a reasonable suspicion that the LTA is technically proficient. I really don't like it when people say publicly "Can you create a filter to stop the LTA who says 'Ni'?" because if they find EFR, they are now the LTA who until recently said "Ni". It's not only a question of technical proficiency; even if they can't read regex, they can still read the plain English description that filter-requestor "helpfully" provided at EFR. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Suffusion of Yellow, In a similar vein might I propose changing editnotice from consider emailing to email? Asartea Talk | Contribs 07:11, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Done and updated the header. Haven't looked at the editnotice yet (re Asartea's cmt above). ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 17:04, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Updated the editnotice slightly. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 20:47, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Abuse filter for non-existent templates and sandbox templates[edit]

I noticed an IP added a non-existent template to an article page. I think there should be an abuse filter for that to warn new editors about it.

What it may look like:

And for sandbox templates:

Aasim (talk) 07:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim: I'm not aware of a trigger for (new transclusion of page that doesn't exist), is there a parameter you had in mind (nb old_html is disabled for performance)? — xaosflux Talk 10:31, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Can use something like 1111 (hist · log). That doesn't catch templates because it's looking for [[ not {{. The logic of that filter is not precise enough for a warning filter though, but I might be able to work something out. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Three new user scripts[edit]

A few new user scripts that I hope will be useful for EFMs:

  • filterDiff: Adds a "Show changes" button to the filter editor. Great anxiety-reducer!
  • filterTest: Adds a "Test changes" button. Opens Special:AbuseFilter/test with what's currently in the edit form, not with what's saved in the database, so you don't have to copy-paste your changes.
  • filterNotes: Parses filter notes as wikitext (so links are clickable), and signs and dates new comments for you.

Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

As a non-EFM, I love these scripts. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 00:40, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
@JJPMaster: Thanks! Now that you say it, I suppose filterNotes could be useful to non-EFMs. I'll try to remove the "add note" box for users who can't edit filters, when I get around to it. But what do the other scripts do for you? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@Suffusion of Yellow: filterTest and filterDiff require EFM (and I therefore cannot use them), but filterNotes is quite useful (because I see [[]] syntax in filter notes quite often), however the add note button actually allows me to add pseudo-notes (and they actually appear in the note box) until I purge the page and they disappear. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 21:11, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@JJPMaster: Is that something you actually want to do? I'll leave it alone, then. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:13, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@Suffusion of Yellow: if you mean adding "pseudo-notes", no, I do not actually want to do that. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 21:15, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@JJPMaster: The useless parts should be removed now. Notes are still parsed, but for users without EFM acccess, there should only be a "View source" button. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
@Suffusion of Yellow: Thank you. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 23:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Set filter 1134 to disallow[edit]

See the mailing list. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:15, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

602 filter[edit]

There is some problem with it please see [1]Shrike (talk) 07:41, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Shrike, so it's more a problem with the message than a problem with the filter. What user were you trying to alert when you got that message? SubjectiveNotability a GN franchise (talk to the boss) 13:15, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
GeneralNotability, I think its happen to all the users even if I try to alert myself. Shrike (talk) 13:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Could be related to T247661. Badtitle/ApiErrorFormatter::getDummyTitle reads like a PHP class and method name. Probably unrelated to anything onwiki and more something related to MediaWiki. In particular, it seems like it can't read {{BASEPAGENAME}} on MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-DS. Best to file a phab ticket. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:25, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
ProcrastinatingReader, Please do because it helpful to search alerts in user history and not give unnecessary alerts Shrike (talk) 13:54, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
I can confirm this; the 2017 text editor gives me the same message, but it works fine in the 2010 editor. So this is the same issue as phab:T247661; there's no need for another ticket. Something like {{#ifexpr:{{In string|{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Badtitle}}|simple message|fancy message}} (untested) might make the message less ugly, at least. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)