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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Chickensalad2022 (talk | contribs) at 12:21, 3 November 2022 (→‎COI tag (July 2021): Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

COI tag (July 2021)

ticket:2021071910006988, ongoing UPE contributions. Cabayi (talk) 17:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC) Does the suspension belong on a Wikipedia page? (As in, this is not necessarily relevant to the general page). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Texasmom1965 (talkcontribs) 19:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't access the article because it's subscription only. Walkingonsunshine2505 (talk) 00:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I can’t access the full article either. I just checked the one that’s cited, and I don’t see where he told someone to commit suicide. Chickensalad2022 (talk) 13:41, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The section regarding the suspension should be removed from this page as per WP:G10 – this section constitutes an attack page. The inclusion of the suspension is disparaging as it is not reliably sourced, considering the cited article is from a subscription-only source, and therefore not accessible to the general public. Further, this section is not relevant nor properly weighed as it occurred over three years ago and accounts for only four months out of a 20+ year career.
Additionally, as per WP:BLPCOI, Wikipedia pages for living persons may not be used “for parties to off-wiki disputes to continue their hostilities”. Seeing as this particular page has been the epicenter for an off-wiki dispute pertaining to the suspension, the section should be removed, and the matter handled off of Wikipedia.
Finally, the language in this section is biased, which explicitly violates WP:BLPBALANCE. The phrasing “undignified conduct” is slanted and goes against Wikipedia’s policy that “the overall presentation and section headings [should be] broadly neutral.” Therefore, the suspension section of this article is inappropriate for this page, and should be expeditiously removed. Texasmom1965 (talk) 16:17, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The contents of what is cited on this Wikipedia page does not match the subscription-only portion of the text that can be viewed online; in fact it entirely contradicts it. This Wikipedia page asserts that Bailey was suspended for "telling a party suing Bailey's client that he 'should commit suicide'", and that Bailey was "threatening criminal charges to obtain an advantage in a civil matter." However, that exact language is nowhere to be found in the viewable section of the subscription-only website. Rather, the article states that Bailey was suspended for "accusations that he barged into an arbitration hearing and swore at a witness and that he threatened to refer a tenant for criminal prosecution over comments posted online." The suspension portion of this page is not properly cited, and should therefore be removed.
Finally, you don’t destroy a just under 30 year career with one lapse in judgement. Especially where the subject has argued many of the most important case of his generation, some of which involve the Ground Zero Mosque, a Former President of the United Stated, causing Congress to Change a Law, and not to mention a best-selling and award winning attorney and author. Chickensalad2022 (talk) 12:21, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]