Talk:Oath Keepers
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Orders Oath Keepers will not obey
This is central to oath keeper ideology but I don't see it specified anywhere, I think it can further illustrate their opposition to things like immigration.
- We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
- We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.
- We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as "unlawful enemy combatants" or to subject them to military tribunal.
- We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a "state of emergency" on a state.
- We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
- We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
- We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
- We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to "keep the peace" or to "maintain control."
- We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
- We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
From the ADL report on the OathKeepers: https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/assets/pdf/combating-hate/The-Oath-Keepers-ADL-Report.pdf
-- 219.88.235.157 (talk) 01:44, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- We generally avoid including extended mission statements like this for the reasoning outlined in WP:MISSION. It being mentioned by the ADL isn't adequate reason to go against this. VQuakr (talk) 01:50, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- That may be, but the inclusion, even if only on the talk page, may be useful to people trying to understand the ideology of the group. While we're at it, somebody needs to include something about Rhodes "We The People" tattoo and it's increasing popularity among law enforcement officers - It's showing up in news video with alarming frequency. How would you feel if you called for police assistance and all the officers showed up sporting fascist tattoos? You certainly will want to have enough knowledge to avoid becoming an unwitting victim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:6AE5:2510:0:0:0:49 (talk) 17:56, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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I don’t know why we insist on explaining basic policies to people who will never actually listen because their very username is a POV statement Dronebogus (talk) 22:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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New ADL report
[1]. Doug Weller talk 17:32, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
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Please change his name to Elmer Stewart Rhodes or give me access. Thank you. Dreed503 (talk) 00:17, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- What do you mean "change his name", and what is your source for this? 331dot (talk) 00:54, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 💜 melecie talk - 01:15, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
Elmer Stewart Rhodes
should there be a separate article on Elmer Stewart Rhodes, as an individual Patbahn (talk) 22:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Might get redirected (again), but stub at Stewart Rhodes ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:17, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Declutter the lead
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The first paragraph could probably be better at summarizing. I propose:
In November 2022, Rhodes and another leader of the organization were convicted of seditious conspiracy for their actions around the January 6 United States Capitol attack. Along with three other leaders, they were also convicted of obstruction and other felonies. [4]
Is changed to: In November 2022, Rhodes and other leaders of the organization were convicted of various crimes, including seditious conspiracy, for their actions around the January 6 United States Capitol attack. [4]
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