Talk:Ari Melber

The Beat

Added the show to the article and considering adding episode section due to the time slot and activities underway in the politics and media.--Wikipietime (talk) 12:51, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Suggested Deletion of Unsourced / Dubious Claim

Suggest the deletion of the following sentence from this article:

• Craig Melvin said on his show on March 13, 2019 that Melber graduated at the "top of his class" from law school.

First, there is a lack of a direct source citation, even if the sentence itself makes reference to what it could be.

Second, even if Melvin did in fact make the statement, all this proves is that Melvin believes something about Melber. It does not prove that Melber did in fact graduate "at the top of his class" from law school and no actual proof has been provided by the editor to support that statement. One would expect that proof to be in the form of Melber's GPA, class ranking, receipt of high Latin honors (if applicable), or other substantiation of graduation honors received that could be cited. It would seem sloppy to include such an editorial comment in the article of a living individual (this by its very nature is not the best source of the information in question), as that might raise the concern of advertising / bias.

Third, given that Melber and Melvin are apparently colleagues at MSNBC, this feels a bit too much like colleagues at a company using sales-type talk to promote each other in order to bolster the former's credentials without any factual substantiation of the premise being made. Melvin does not appear to have any affiliation with Cornell Law School where Melber went to law school, nor does Melvin even have a law degree so it is very much unclear on what informed basis Melvin would be making this statement other than to promote the former.

Lastly, existing biographical information circulating about Melber would lead a reasonable observer to conclude that he likely did not in fact graduate "at the top of his class", at least by traditional indicia in the legal world associated with those who have done so. This includes consideration of Melber's law school journal (not the flagship Cornell Law Review, but a secondary one instead), lack of a judicial clerkship, and the ranking of his former law firm by external metrics (e.g., 58th in the 2019 Vault Rankings of Law Firms).

Even at best, the claim is dubious in light of these points above and in my opinion, it should be deleted absent more concrete substantiation (an actual objective source versus a colleague's seemingly off-the-cuff claim) given the relative loftiness of what is being claimed as well. I.e. a reasonable person would believe the "top" of one's class to be a fairly high measure / specific claim and certainly one that could be substantiated if it is to be included in this article.

52.124.6.146 (talk) 06:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Missing documents

Why was there no accounting for these documents such as which documents were taken and by whom. This would avoid the circus we are observing now. 50.206.176.154 (talk) 17:38, 1 February 2023 (UTC)