Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Administrative regions of Kanpur

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Most people think that there are better ways to organize this information. Sandstein 07:29, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Administrative regions of Kanpur

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PROD contested by my favorite wikistalker. Non-notable, unreferenced list, and a content fork of Kanpur district. Any noteworthy information that could possibly be included in this article can easily be included in Kanpur district#Cities and Towns. This article is unnecessary and adds nothing to the project that doesn't already exist elsewhere. SnottyWong ^confabulate 21:46, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone please explain the distinctions of Administrative regions of Kanpur, Kanpur Metropolitan Region, Kanpur district and Kanpur division? Indian local government isn't my forte. Clearly the structure of a major city like Kanpur has some significance (despite Snotty's claim that it fails WP:CSD A7), but it's not obvious to the outsider if there's any overlap between these articles (that could be grounds for pruning, but which one(s)?).

It has already been claimed that this is a content fork, but the edit histories don't give any evidence for this (Kanpur district hasn't been edited in weeks, nor by the creator of this article) Andy Dingley (talk) 22:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Content forks aren't dependent on edit histories, nor do they have to be created in a proximate time in order to be considered content forks. A content fork means that there is more than one article that covers the same subject. Anyway, There are clearly a couple of users who are simultaneously Kanpur fanatics and also very fond of lists. There is tons of redundancy between these Indian geography articles (far more than just the ones mentioned above), and they need to be condensed. Since this article is barely started and Kanpur district is far more established, this article needs to go. I'm not sure about the division article and metro region article, but we can save those for another AfD. SnottyWong ^confer 22:34, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But what's an "administrative region" and what's a "district" ? It would be a mistake to delete "List of counties of Wales" on the grounds that they're all "counties of Wales", because they're actually different entities. I don't know what applies in India and I wouldn't presume to delete an article on it unless I did so.Andy Dingley (talk) 22:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This is a redundant article. This should be covered either in Kanpur Metropolitan Region or in Kanpur itself. The Division and Metro region artilces should stay. The Kanpur administrative hierarchy is like this Division > District > Metro region/Urban Agglomeration > City/Corporation. All four need separate articles, but this one is redundant.--Sodabottle (talk) 07:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but refactor. If, as Sodabottle above asserts, the administrative hierarchy is complex enough that it's not bleedingly obvious, then we should have an article on it, and this article title would be an excellent place to put that article. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 03:55, 3 July 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Great, then let's delete this article until someone comes along who wants to create the ideal article you describe. At this point, the article you describe is not the article we're discussing. SnottyWong ^comment 14:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, just as a matter of proper organization. India is a huge country and thus has many cascading government subdivisions, but we don't appear to have any other articles starting with "Administrative regions of" that refer to an Indian government level. De-prodding this was worthwhile because these articles are not all well organized, so its good to develop some precedents like that suggested by Sodabottle.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 19:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.