Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jerry D. Roe

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The result was no consensus. Swarm ♠ 01:14, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry D. Roe

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Most of the coverage mentions him rather than is about him, other than local sources. This seems borderline, but after more than seven years of being tagged for notability, it needs resolution and I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 09:17, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep That Michiganian of the year award seems enough.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:29, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Needs some editing and improvement in paragraphs. Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:39, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This article seems pretty weak on sources. Note that "Michiganian of the Year" is not a state award but of the Detroit News, so it's at best a fair to middling award, and I don't think it confers notability. Also, it is given to more than one person per year [1]. I don't find that any of the articles (that I can reach) are truly about him, and some (like the NY Times and the "Political Graveyard") only mention him. I found brief mentions in Lansing Journal, but nothing substantial. I'll check back to see if anyone can show that there are substantial articles about him that I have missed. (I don't have great newspaper access.) LaMona (talk) 00:53, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia does not confer an automatic presumption of notability on political figures whose notability is tied to their role as a backroom strategist or consultant, or the president of an internal party organization at the state level — while such a person can potentially get over the bar if they're the subject of enough coverage to satisfy WP:GNG, they don't get an automatic entitlement to a Wikipedia article. The sourcing here is virtually all of the primary and/or cursory namecheck varieties, without nearly enough coverage in which he's substantively the subject to deem him as satisfying GNG. So I'm certainly willing to reconsider this if the sourcing can be improved, but as written it's a delete. Bearcat (talk) 16:58, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 20:13, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete He's not notable just because he has worked on some notable campaigns. I don't see anything really notable about his life or work. Jd027 (talk) 20:22, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A key political figure in his state who presided, for ten years, over one of Michigan's major parties and influenced all political campaigns, including presidential elections, in what was then the sixth most populous state, thus making him a national figure. There are 453 articles immediately accessible here, at Google News Archive, in which he is mentioned or is the central topic and there are literally thousands of others at Newspaper Archive, with virtually daily references to him in 1969–79, during the ten-year period in which he headed the state party. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:34, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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