Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of fictional historical events

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 08:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of fictional historical events[edit]

Incomprehensible nonsense. Half of the entries fail to state to which fictional universe is being referred, a disproportionately large number of the entries seem to be about the Scrooge McDuck universe, the article has the potential to be longer than the list of non-notable living and deceased persons, et cetera, et cetera. This is basically all the articles on timelines of individual fictional universes crammed into one. How many times is this "chronology" going to list the pre-1945 assassination of Hitler? The obliteration of the universe? I'm sure the editors of this article are all working in good faith, but this just isn't going to work. Simões (^talk/_contribs) 02:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Delete dumb. Danny Lilithborne 02:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, but only on account that mulitple universes, in this account, could cross over and contradict each other. It just doesn't work so well. --Dennisthe2 03:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. There is NO WAY we can manage a timeline of fictional historical events. My bet is we would get about 10,000 assasinations in each year. -Amarkov ^babble 03:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete from Wikipedia per nomination, but offer it to the Fictional Characters wiki at wikia.com if anybody wants to maintain it there. --Metropolitan90 03:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Incredibly strong delete Not to attack any editors in particular, as I didn't check the history to see which (or how many) editors have contributed to this article, but this is one of the worst and most pointless articles I've ever seen. -- Kicking222 03:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for all the reasons cited above. Just...eurgh - what a bad idea for an article. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I just started List of fictional timelines. I'm guessing this should serve whatever the intended purpose of present article under discussion is. Redirect? Simões (^talk/_contribs) 04:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Sounds reasonable enough, and possibly manageable. BTW Scrooge McDuck has his own universe?? Tubezone 05:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of fictional historical events, Timeline of fictional future events from 2005. I thought I remembered something more recent but can't find it. --Dhartung | Talk 06:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. If really done "correctly" this thing would get longer then the "list of non-notable persons" above. (Also, per WP:BEANS, now you just know someone's going to pull that one. ;) ) Seraphimblade 08:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and title should be worth a mention in WP:FREAKY or WP:BAI. Kavadi carrier 09:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment perhaps WP:BJAODN? —Mitaphane _talk 00:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. utcursch | talk 10:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, but preserve this somehow due to its specific entertainment value. The mix of events such as Albert Einstein travels back in time and kills Adolf Hitler and Stan Marsh et al watch the R-rated Canadian film Asses of Fire is almost mind-blowing. And Scrooge McDuck has his own universe, of course :) --Ouro 12:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this list could eventually contain just about every event in just about every work of fiction ever created, which would be pointless in the extreme. Hut 8.5 13:04, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this is completely unmanageable, and can only go downhill.-- danntm ^T _C 18:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ack! --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 19:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOT, indiscriminate info. I can't believe this survived an AFD. I could see why someone might want it a certain fictional universe to provide some sort of context of fictional history, but this article is just a random list of fictional events that doesn't give the reader any sort of context at all. I can't imagine what this would be useful for. —Mitaphane _talk 00:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete Nonsensical gobbledygook. Xdenizen 01:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep! Interesting article! Plus, Wikipedia has been delte happy as of late and I fear that many contributor's hard work will discourage participants and will detract from our ability to catalog human knowledge, the purpose of an encyclopedia. Cheers, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 02:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingness is not a criterion for inclusion. And the purpose of an encyclopedia isn't to catalog ALL human knowledge. -Amarkov ^babble 03:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why shouldn't we have such ambitions? --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 04:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A given AfD is really not a great place for discussions in the strength, weakness, or necessity of the deletion policy or Wikipedia's mission as a whole. There are appropriate places for those debates though, you may wish to check the village pump.

Seraphimblade 04:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Have a good night! --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 01:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Comment. Please note that User:Le Grand Roi du Citrouilles has been going through and copy/pasting this argument into about fifteen AfD's (as of this writing). In no case are the merits of the individual case discussed. Seraphimblade 03:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that I've only pasted the arguments on articles that I feel should be kept and I have varied my statements on a few when necessary. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 04:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

::Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles is correct. Not every reason given is exactly the same and the user seems to have varied posts more after being mass attacked on talk page. Also, I vote Keep --172.148.28.36 21:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC) — 172.148.28.36 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Do you advocate a Keep for any particular reason, or are you just advocating it in general? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 21:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I advocate a Keep, because this article is convenient and helpful for anyone interested in getting a clear sense of some key fictional timelines and the timelines are generally associated with widely familiar fictions that have broad appeal and interest. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 01:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, just remember that you can only advocate something the once. The fact that you appear to have done so once while logged in and once while not logged in doesn't allow you to advocate twice. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:36, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Will become huge, and unmaintainable. WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of info. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 03:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above, as one huge unworkable unencyclopedic indiscriminate mess. Sandstein 06:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as absolutely the most poorly conceived article I have ever seen. To try and list all events in fiction is Quixotic; to list them all together within one chronology is completely insane. Postdlf 03:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Timelinecruft? That's new to me.--Cúchullain ^t/c 03:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete, will this eventually include the plotline of every book, TV series, movie, play, short story, radio show, and zoetrope ever written? Obviously unmaintainable. (And what is with the Scrooge McDuck fixation?) Andrew Levine 06:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Creating such a list is original research. Delete. --Pjacobi 13:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete indiscriminate list of unrelated non-notable non-events, do we add the date that grandpa said he almost caught the big one that got away, too? Carlossuarez46 19:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep, but also think that another solution would be to have separate articles with separate fictional historical timelines for key fictions and maybe a category or mister list for each article (if something like this exists and I missed it, please point me in the right direction!). --64.12.117.14 21:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- See List of fictional timelines. Postdlf 21:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link! That is helpful! --152.163.100.200 21:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, copy title to WP:DAFT, and editorialy recreate a redirect to List of fictional timelines. In that order. Eluchil404 08:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.