Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 22
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 22, 2023.
DeFacto
- DeFacto → De facto (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I have multiple options to convert into an article:
- 1. There is a brand named DeFacto
- 2. Please create the draft page
- 3. Find all reliable sources
Disney Junior Dance Party!
- Disney Junior Dance Party! → Disney Junior (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete It's just time-filler between shows no actual child cares about. The only ones searching for this are enthusiasts. Nate • (chatter) 04:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget to Disney Junior – Live on Stage! which covers this show. 192.76.8.84 (talk) 17:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:39, 15 April 2023 (UTC)- Delete wikipedia is not an exhaustive directory of random information Dronebogus (talk) 23:27, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- Weak retarget to Disney Junior – Live on Stage! where it is mentioned. However, I am not opposed to deletion. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 09:44, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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User:Lowercase sigmabot III/config
- User:Lowercase sigmabot III/config → User:MiszaBot/config (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Template:User MiszaBot/Config → User:MiszaBot/config (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The first template is meant to be an alternative name for the auto-archiving template under the current bot's name, and the second is an unlikely double namespace mistake. However, according to the top of this page and the source code, only the exact page name User:MiszaBot/config is recognised, meaning both of these redirects will never actually trigger automatic archiving from the bot, and therefore should be deleted as unhelpful. I've already removed the only existing use of the first one here. Aidan9382 (talk) 09:20, 12 April 2023 (UTC) modified 18:08, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete the second one, basically for the nominator's reason. Keep The first one, as it's reasonable for someone to expect the configuration for User:Lowercase sigmabot III to be in User:Lowercase sigmabot III's userspace, not that of an unrelated bot that hasn't edited for almost a decade. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:30, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
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List of J1 League football transfers 2023
- List of J1 League football transfers 2023 → List of J1 League football transfers winter 2022–23 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Clear error. Will be wrong after "summer 2023" and "winter 2023-24" transfer pages will be created. Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: This was redirected only a week back. How about wait until the summer page is created? Jay 💬 09:58, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Pelmeen10, this redirect is effectively an {{R from move}}, as it appears to have been the title of the target article between November last year and the day before you started this discussion. I don't think it's likely there would be consensus for deletion now, but that would be much easier to achieve once the other list article is created and the redirect becomes ambiguous. Would you like to withdraw this nomination now and then start a new one once the situation changes? – Uanfala (talk) 13:08, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep until ambiguous. [2] and [3] were incorrect speedy deletions as CSD:R3 does not apply to redirects created as a result of a page move. [1] is a more complex case (J1 vs J2) and involving a histmerge of the target, it was not deleted for the same rason. Jay 💬 13:30, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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Early 2023 execution of a Ukrainian prisoner of war
- Early 2023 execution of a Ukrainian prisoner of war → Execution of Oleksandr Matsievskyi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
In March 2023, a video of a Ukrainian soldier being executed by Russian forces appeared. He was first identified as someone else before being recognized as Oleksandr Matsievskyi. During that period of uncertainty, this title was chosen. Further, as information appeared, it turned out Matsievskyi was killed in December 2022. And also, arguably in "early 2023" as well (March), another Ukrainian captured soldier was killed, see Beheading of Szerhij Pataki. So this redirect is problematic.
Some users may believe that Matsievskyi being killed in 2022 means this redirect would be valid for Pataki. Technically yes, but I don't expect readers to know so many details of these brutal executions, with so much conflicting info having appeared. Most readers would identify these murders with the date of the release of their videos (March 2023 and April 2023). A reader might not know what to expect when taken to "Early 2023 execution of a Ukrainian prisoner of war". Super Ψ Dro 07:45, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Summer 2022 beheading of a Ukrainian prisoner of war
- Summer 2022 beheading of a Ukrainian prisoner of war → Beheading of Szerhij Pataki (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
In 11 April 2023, a video showing the beheading of a living Ukrainian soldier was released in pro-Russian media. His identity was unknown (and I chose this title for the article believing it would stay that way) and the date of his murder was too, but it was assumed to be the summer of last year. Turns out however that yesterday it was revealed that the soldier was Szerhij Pataki and that he was murdered actually in March 2023. So, this title is now inaccurate. Super Ψ Dro 07:39, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Pine Bowl (Stadium)
Nominating to delete. There is already Pine Bowl (stadium), the down case version with more substantial page history, which is sufficient as a navigation/search aid. – robertsky (talk) 07:38, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Rules of the Senate
- Rules of the Senate → Standing Rules of the United States Senate (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Just bringing this up here for discussion: does this term unambiguously refer to the rules of the U.S. Senate? J947 † edits 05:34, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - besides the target there are, at least, Canadian Senate Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament, Standing Rules of the United States Senate, Rule XIX, United States Senate Committee on Rules, and Philippine Senate Committee on Rules, found in a few pages of search results, as well as numerous articles which contain the phrase "Rules of the Senate" with that exact capitalization. There's also Parliamentary procedure (the target of Robert's Rules of Order), with a general overview of the concept but not discussing Senates specificaly. I think search results are better here. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:29, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oops, that's Rules of order, not Robert's Rules. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:30, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Since there are so many rules systems in various senates, and since I fail to see how the U.S.' is the primary topic, I would suggest disambiguation. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 13:26, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Disambiguate. The fact that we have several articles on this, none of which are clearly WP:PTOPIC, means that a dab might be warranted for navigational purposes. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 21:30, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Is disambiguation warranted? And how will the dab page look like, given the fact that there are several articles on this topic?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 17:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Disambiguate as multiple topics it could refer to. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 17:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Disambiguate seems logical Dronebogus (talk) 19:06, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete unless a viable draft dab page is presented. Given everything Ivanvector found, I don't see how a dab page wouldn't be overwhelming. WP:REDYES maybe also applies. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 13:48, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: One more go…
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Cheery Littlebottom
- Cheery Littlebottom → Discworld (world)#Sentient species (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom → Discworld (world)#Sentient species (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
there is nothing in Discworld_(world) about Cheery Littlebottom. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:54, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- I just started updating Discworld (world) and was trying to reference and link to Cheery Littlebottom assuming she'd also have an entry in Ankh-Morpork City Watch after I saw the one on Captain Carrot. I was annoyed to learn it was empty and just redirected back there via see also. When I checked to see if she had a standalone article I saw the redirect and discussion here. I think the redirect should be pointed to Ankh-Morpork City Watch#Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom and, since it's currently empty, that subsection be significantly expanded so it doesn't just two step redirect you to Discworld (world). I added an expansion needed notice about that problem (and similar ones with other characters). TheTranarchist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 05:03, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Bundled Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom with this.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 14:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Retarget both to the existing section Ankh-Morpork_City_Watch#Sergeant_Cheery_Littlebottom, which is no longer completely empty now that I've expanded it with one very short sentence. Given that the article has decent-size sections on the other characters, and that Ms Littlebottom appears to be a core character, I expect that this section is unlikely to be removed. – Uanfala (talk) 12:48, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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Genital sex
- Genital sex → Sexual characteristics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Target term not mentioned in the article; the title could refer to any of various sex acts that involve genitals. A previous RfD for the redirect suggested targeting to the current target, but seeing that the target is not mentioned... I suggest either disambiguating or deleting. Colgatepony234 (talk) 00:13, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Plausible search term. Primary sexual characteristics mentioned at target page include anatomy of internal/external genitalia, which "genital sex" seems to be used for; see Google Scholar search results with certain partial matches omitted. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 00:57, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: disambiguation is used when a term is mentioned at multiple target pages. Search results for "genital sex" show the phrase being used for either sexual characteristics, as above, or for sexual intercourse. However, Sexual intercourse does not use the phrase "genital sex", so a disambiguation link to that article wouldn't be very helpful. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- setindexify -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 03:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Sexual intercourse and hatnote Sexual characteristics from there. There is sufficient mention of "genital" at both targets. Jay 💬 08:21, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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Kang Zhan
- Kang Zhan → Second Sino-Japanese War (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article's subject unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 23:51, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep and add in a {{efn}} footnote on "War of Resistance" (which is listed in the article's lead as a synonym). This is the pinyin transcription of the Chinese term 抗戰 meaning "War of Resistance". 59.149.117.119 (talk) 00:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- In the absence of any objections, I've added that footnote. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 10:38, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
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Southern District of New York
- Southern District of New York → United States District Court for the Southern District of New York (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I suggest retargeting to SDNY per this recent RfD. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 00:23, 22 April 2023 (UTC)