Talk:Libertarian Party (United States)

Libertarian Party
Libertarian Party
Abbreviation	LP
Chairperson	Angela McArdle (CA)
Secretary	Caryn Ann Harlos (CO)
Governing body	Libertarian National Committee
Founded	December 11, 1971; 52 years ago
Headquarters	1444 Duke St.; Alexandria, Virginia 22314
Membership (2021)	693,634
Ideology	Majority:; Libertarianism; Laissez-faire; Classical liberalism ; Cultural liberalism; Economic liberalism; Fiscal conservatism; Non-interventionism; Deontological libertarianism; Factions:; Minarchism ; Anarcho-capitalism ; Paleolibertarianism
International affiliation	International Alliance of Libertarian Parties
Colors	Gold-yellow
Slogan	"The Party of Principle"
Seats in the Senate	0 / 100
Seats in the House of Representatives	0 / 435
State governorships	0 / 50
Seats in state upper chambers	0 / 1,972
Seats in state lower chambers	1 / 5,411
Territorial governorships	0 / 5
Seats in territorial upper chambers	0 / 97
Seats in territorial lower chambers	0 / 91
Other elected officials	352 (March 2022)
Election symbol
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"Libertarian Party Caucus Wiki"

https://lpedia.org/wiki/List_of_Libertarian_Party_Caucuses#Libertarian_Socialist_Caucus_of_the_Libertarian_Party

Firstly, I don't know if this website is a "good source"

Secondly, Is it possible that some of these caucuses could be included in the "Factions" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritas Virtutis (talk • contribs) 08:26, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This site is completely unusable as a source. It's interesting to read if you're interested in the little facets of the party, but it cannot be used as a source here. This is twofold: on one hand, we don't allow the use of Wikis as sources (unless there is complete editorial oversight, with little or no ability for the general public to edit, and the overseers are experts in the field); additionally, LPedia has basically become a mouthpiece for Caryn Ann Harlos to air her many grievances (for example, the entry on the Portland Massacre). Anyways, the major factions are already accounted for in the infobox. Curbon7 (talk) 08:48, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Is it acceptable to change the infobox to the format/layout seen on the talk page here, or should what is currently used on the article's page be retained? Helper201 (talk) 21:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to make some minor adjustments to the infobox to make it neater and easier to read but have been reverted. Aspects such as political ideologies break line by line on all Wikipedia pages in the respective party's infobox. Therefore, it makes sense and is easier to read if this is retained, hence why I wrapped the text ensuring "Deontological libertarianism" remains on one single line of text. Also, deontological is not a commonly used or known term, so I could see many readers at a glance mistaking this for its own individual ideology. As can also be seen from my edit these adjustments did not make the infobox overly stretched or the lead/introductory paragraph in any way difficult to read. This is merely a small change in order to improve readability and avoid confusion that I see no negative results occurring from. The infobox under my changes can be seen on the right. I would ask editors to please compare it to the current infobox and see which is better. Helper201 (talk) 07:26, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose deviation from the standard infobox width for the sake of visual consistency. Graham (talk) 02:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, there's nothing wrong with text wrapping. {{nowrap}} should be used sparingly. What does look wrong is stretching the infobox width, which then requires making the logo much larger to fill the space. I fail to see how text wrapping causes "confusion". I do not think this requires an RfC, either, it's a minor formatting change and one you have not previously brought up on the talk page. It can be handled through normal discussion. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 03:00, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Winger, Richard. "March 2021 Ballot Access News Print Edition". Ballot Access News. Retrieved April 1, 2021.
^ Rothbard, Murray Newton (1978). For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto. p. 153. ISBN 9780020746904. Even more extraordinary, the Libertarian party achieved this growth while consistently adhering to a new ideological creed—"libertarianism"—thus bringing to the American political scene for the first time in a century a party interested in principle rather than in merely gaining jobs and money at the public trough
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e "Ideological Third Parties and Splinter Parties". June 3, 2017. Archived from the original on January 16, 2015. Retrieved January 16, 2015.
^ "Libertarian Party opposes further intervention in Iraq". June 18, 2014.
^ Yeager, Leland B. (2001). Ethics As Social Science: The Moral Philosophy of Social Cooperation. Edward Elgar Publishing. p. 283.
^ ^a ^b Less Antman, The Dallas Accord is Dead, Lew Rockwell.com, May 12, 2008.
^ Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. "The Case for Paleo-libertarianism" in Liberty, January, 1990, 34–38.
^ "Elected Officials". Retrieved March 5, 2022.

Rothbard mention in introduction

Not sure that statement really belongs. The sourced article isn’t accurate. The party was very objectivist leaning in the beginning. I’m sure his writings had some influence, but he wasn’t a founder or a central figure. For the first couple of years of the LP, Rothbard himself was a member of the Peace and Freedom Party. 2601:1C2:1B7F:F450:CD4B:4478:6CA4:790 (talk) 02:50, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of discussion of Libertarian local party exclusion from Senate debate

The relevance here is this relates to a Libertarian party federal election in a Commonwealth, in which the party was excluded from a debate, with the tv station having changed the requirements for inclusion mid-stream. That relates to the Libertarian Party, the subject of the article. And as well, to a local chapter. As is evident by the head of the local chapter commenting on it. And this section is about local chapters of the party. I would urge that the deletion be reverted. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Libertarian_Party_(United_States)&diff=1124673961&oldid=1124670293 2603:7000:2143:8500:8C79:75A0:F11E:F236 (talk) 23:36, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is not relevant to this particular article, as this is the national party's article and should thus be an overview of it. Consider adding it to Libertarian Party of Kentucky. Curbon7 (talk) 00:56, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Transcendentalism

In full disclosure, I hold a leadership within the Libertarian Party Wild Caucus. I was alerted on Discord that an alteration was made today adding 'Transcendentalism' to the list of minority ideologies within the Libertarian Party of the United States.

I believe that it's fitting, and I am here to support the term, or something similar, being mentioned in the minority ideology section. I know the term is broad, but no more adequate terms which can be easily cited come to mind.

Why do I support this? There is undeniably a faction of Thoreau-ites, Eco-Libertarians, and the like within the party, and with the formal creation of an active Caucus to represent them, I feel there should be, at the very least, some tip of a hat to the group within this article. The faction is quite large, though I must admit that not all members of this faction consider themselves transcendentalists and not all, by any means, are involved with the Wild Caucus, of course. The caucus merely gives the broad faction an organizational body.

Transcendentalism and the political philosophies of Thoreau are explicitly mentioned in the Caucus Platform and LPedia page multiple times. they are the primary influence for the philosophy of the Caucus. I will look for other sources to cite as well. TheLibertyBoi (talk) 02:09, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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[1] Winger, Richard. "March 2021 Ballot Access News Print Edition". Ballot Access News. Retrieved April 1, 2021.

[2] Rothbard, Murray Newton (1978). For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto. p. 153. ISBN 9780020746904. Even more extraordinary, the Libertarian party achieved this growth while consistently adhering to a new ideological creed—"libertarianism"—thus bringing to the American political scene for the first time in a century a party interested in principle rather than in merely gaining jobs and money at the public trough

[fiscal_con-3] "Ideological Third Parties and Splinter Parties". June 3, 2017. Archived from the original on January 16, 2015. Retrieved January 16, 2015.

[4] "Libertarian Party opposes further intervention in Iraq". June 18, 2014.

[5] Yeager, Leland B. (2001). Ethics As Social Science: The Moral Philosophy of Social Cooperation. Edward Elgar Publishing. p. 283.

[Antman-6] Less Antman, The Dallas Accord is Dead, Lew Rockwell.com, May 12, 2008.

[7] Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. "The Case for Paleo-libertarianism" in Liberty, January, 1990, 34–38.

[Elected_Officials-9] "Elected Officials". Retrieved March 5, 2022.

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