Talk:Transgender

research on transsexualism section?

there are multiple issues with this section. Firstly, transsexualism is generally an outdated term not used within the trans community to refer to itself, and has medicalising undertones.

secondly, citing blanchard? blanchards theories are near universally viewed as inaccurate by the trans community, and generally aren't mainstream. to put him in a prominent position and list those who do and don't disagree with him as if they were equal sides gives him too much legitimacy and relevance, where honestly i dont think he should be in this article at all.

thirdly, the mortality rate paragraph. there is no clarificiation as to what causes this higher mortality rate, it merely mentions that they studied populations on hormone replacement therapy, but doesnt clarify if the hormone replacement therapy is what contributes to the higher mortality rate. If im going to be a bit conspiratorial, it seems like someone has inserted this section so people will read it, and then associate HRT with higher mortality, because most people won't see that only the correlation has been noted here, and won't visit the link which explicitly says this : The cause-specific mortality risk because of lung cancer, cardiovascular disease, HIV-related disease, and suicide gives no indication to a specific effect of hormone treatment.

I think the last section really needs further clarificaiton, and more citations to other sources, because otherwise it just comes off as fearmongering, and may be unnecessarily distressing to trans individuals who read it, who might think that going on hrt is going to be bad for their long term health, where the actual citation claims no direct correlation between the two. Schizotypewriter (talk) 16:16, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

That's true, transsexualism is the term used in the DSM-III, which was replaced by gender identity disorder (GID) in DSM-IV, and gender dysphoria (GD) in the DSM-5. The use of the term transsexualism should in and of itself be considered a red flag at this point that the material is likely outdated or fringe science.

For Blanchard's theories, we should follow WP:DUE, and since Blanchard's theories are not accepted by mainstream researchers or mainstream medical organizations dealing with trans issues, they should be treated as such, if they are presented at all. In this regard, it may be good to review WP:FRINGE. Hist9600 (talk) 16:34, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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false info in first paragraph

having a different gender expression doesn't make you trans. if a man is feminine, he isn't trans. and if a trans woman is masculine, she's still a woman. your gender identity determines whether or not your trans, not your gender expression. Kutgut (talk) 22:30, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Do you have a proposed change you want to meet to the article? The lead doesn’t currently say that having a different gender expression makes you trans, so I’m not sure what you’re saying here. I see no false information in the first paragraph; you’ll have to be more specific. Mathglot (talk) 23:17, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Actually, I think maybe it does, although I doubt that this is the intention. Currently it says "A transgender person (often abbreviated to trans person) is someone whose gender identity or gender expression does not correspond with the sex they were assigned at birth." I don't want to put words into the OP's mouth but I think they would like us to remove "or gender expression". If so, I think that this is a valid request. There is nothing in the article body to support it and it seems incorrect. I'm sure that gender non-conforming people often get mistaken as trans and hence suffer some of the same discrimination as people who are recognisably trans but they are not actually trans. DanielRigal (talk) 00:06, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. Cis people can vary their gender expressions too. Funcrunch (talk) 00:19, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

This has been discussed before, probably longest at [1]. It seems that this language reflects what sources have to say on the matter. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 01:11, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

LGBT Community - Purpose of Section?

Noticed the "LGBT Community" section in this article, consisting of 1 paragraph and doesn't seem to have enough significance for its own section. Is there another reason for this section? PerryPerryD Talk To Me 18:37, 1 May 2023 (UTC)