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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Meltingpot (talk | contribs) at 05:09, 7 July 2023 (→DoB). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Ought to give date-of-birth.

And is he any relation to Patrick Mercer, the other Army officer turned Tory MP? If not, it should say not, since many people would like to know. Valetude (talk) 23:30, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we need to state and prove a negative. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

His Twitter account (which is presumably self-edited) gives his date of birth as March 17.Meltingpot (talk) 05:09, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Potentially politically biased editing

There have been substantial edits to this page by Impsfan on 10/10/18 - though they are well sourced, they may have been made specifically to undermine the character of the subject of this page. Checking Impsfan's activity, it appears they have a habit of activist editing of Conservative party politician profiles.

There is a substantial edit history here Impsfan edit history

This calls into question the likelihood that the edits have been made in keeping with the guidelines on Wikipedia:Point of view

As such I am conscious that these edits (particularly under "Controversies" which appear to be particularly questionable in terms of bias) may need revision (but of course willing to enter a discussion with Impsfan about this).

Many thanks libsec (talk) 18:42, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi libsec

You are partially correct. A while back I read a lengthy newspaper profile regarding an MP and then googled them for information. I read the Wiki age for them and realised it was really out of date and just included text copied verbatim from their own website. Since then I have been updating pages so they don't arbitrarily stop at the date someone was lost bothered (often circa the 2015 general election!) and including other information for balance. You will note everything is sourced and I provide the counter-point on all occasions where there is one. I have included positive information, such as promotions, election wins and membership of committees, and neutral information, such as past career and dates of birth etc. Although I have done a couple of edits to MPs from other political parties, there is a bias towards the Conservative Party because I have ended up doing it thematically and it is more efficient to included links from that context. Rest assured, I have just about come to the end of the MPs from that party and the next stage will be more edits to update those from the other ones.

Many thanks Impsfan (talk) 20:40, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Impsfan - I appreciate the response, thanks for the detail. Hope you take no offence if I may have a tinker with this some other time when at a loose end!

libsec (talk) 21:52, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

libsec Far from taking offence, I would value it. Inevitably, in trying to 'balance' things on a page about a politician I run the risk of it going too far the other way, so a critical look is good. Impsfan (talk) 20:25, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with medal ribbon - wrong photo but I can't see why

Hi all, the photo shows a plain ribbon - it should have the rosette, But the file name seems correct for the rosette version. Can anyone assist? Springnuts (talk) 22:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Defending his wife's honour

There's quite a few reliable sources about the time the subject of the page attempted to defend his wife's honour after she was called a prostitute in the comments section of the Plymouth Herald which led to the Plymouth Herald trending on twitter. Does anyone have any objections to me adding this to the page? Sources:

80.47.137.128 (talk) 21:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can we add the line "In October 2018, Mercer took to Twitter to defend his wife's honour after she was labelled a prostitute in the comments section of the Plymouth Herald. This led to the Plymouth Herald trending on Twitter." See the Talk Page for list of sources, including national newspapers, that covered this. 80.47.137.128 (talk) 17:45, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. This is merely tabloid fodder. Even wording it like this would be a violation of WP:NPOV. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 21:54, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, can you direct me to the wikipedia definition of "tabloid fodder" and where in the rules it states it's not allowed? Thanks 80.47.137.128 (talk) 22:13, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:ONUS –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 22:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but I was asking about why you say it's "tabloid fodder" when it's also been mentioned in The Telegraph https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/10/19/boris-johnson-praises-tory-mp-branded-theresa-mays-government/ and The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/05/mps-social-media-twitter. Currently your argument seems to be "I don't think it should be in, therefore there's no consensus".
Stating WP:ONUS on it's own is not sufficient reason. Please see WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS which states "All edits should be explained (unless the reason for them is obvious)—either by clear edit summaries indicating the reason why the change was made, or by discussion on the associated talk page." 80.47.137.128 (talk) 22:32, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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