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The description of this album seems to be a review. Should it be changed? — Phantasy Phanatik | talk | contribs 02:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 14:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone think this is a glam metal album?

75.155.46.228 (talk) 20:32, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How the hell not? You don't need to look like Poison to be glam, and some bands are more or less "glam" than others. Read any source. Angry Shoplifter (talk) 00:13, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then why isn't Guns N' Roses considered "glam"? I know they have their bluesy sound, but then again so do many glam bands before them. Axl Rose and the rest had teased up hair and sang about the stereotypical sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll lifestyle. That is pretty glam, in my view, especially since they associated with many glam metal bands of the '80s (they were their peers).

Or, alternatively, we could say that Dokken WAS *glam* image-wise, yet their '80s albums sounded more hard rock and oftentimes heavy metal than glam. Listen to the title track of Tooth and Nail and tell me how that's glam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.95.17 (talk) 09:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The glam image really came on the following album Under Lock And Key, and the sound really isn't glam, more classic metal except for Just Got Lucky. If you look at the photo of the band on the inside of the cd booklet, they didn't look any more glam by that point than most 80's metal bands of the era who weren't considered glam.--RandyRhoadsRonnieDio (talk) 05:21, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When Tooth and Nail came out there was no such thing as Hair metal, Dokken was all heavy metal, same with motley crue, ratt. all these bands were just heavy metal and latter on when hair metal was born with poison, warrant bands like that. everything got labled Glam metal. I grew up that era it was all heavy metal that's the fact. Glam metal never excisted yet. Dokken were pretty much heavy metal all the way but then got credited as glam. evben don dokken had said once that he remembered being called glam and didn't like it That's the TruthCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).75.155.46.228 (talk) 20:32, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speed metal?

Can't see how this is a speed metal album. I've heard some call the title track speed metal or say that it borders on it, but this is not a speed metal album. The majority of the songs are more mid-tempo. Unless someone can find a professional music critic or journalist who refers to this as speed metal I think just heavy metal and hard rock are fine for genres. --RandyRhoadsRonnieDio (talk) 08:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Release date

IP 89.148.244.241 insists that the release date is September 13, with some sources, but RIAA says 14. Surely the organisation who hands out certifications is the best source to use? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. The reference provided by the IP is not a reliable source. Lewismaster (talk) 15:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've used the finnishcharts.com version of dutchcharts.nl before and whilst they're good for some release dates, in this case there is no way they should be used over RIAA. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:03, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Another IP insists on changing the release date, using a low-circulation magazine as source. I think that RIAA, Popoff and AllMusic are the most reliable sources and all of them indicate the 14 of September 1984 as release date.Lewismaster (talk) 21:17, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]