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Eleusinian Mysteries? Can someone please give specific references as to how Eros was worshiped during the Eleusinian Mysteries? I have never heard of this being part of the cult. Henryvick304 (talk) 22:20, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to tradition which was made by Eratosthenes, Eros was principally the patron of male love, while Aphrodite ruled the love between men and women. His statue could be found in the palaestrae or wrestling schools, one of the principal venues for men to associate with their beloveds, and it was to him that the Spartans sacrificed before battle. Meleager records this role in a poem preserved in the Greek Anthology: "The Cyprian queen, a woman, hurls the fire that maddens men for women; but Eros himself sways the passion for males." (Mousa Paidiké, 86)

seemed an insufficiently substantiated opinion, given the numerous examples to the contrary: i.e., Eros giving rise to love in men for women, or women for men, (such as the following examples from http://www.theoi.com/Ouranios/Eros.html):

Seneca, Phaedra 290 ff : "He [Eros] smites maids’ breasts with unknown heat, and bids the very gods leave heaven and dwell on earth in borrowed forms."

Nonnus, Dionysiaca 7. 110 ff (trans. Rouse) (Greek epic C5th A.D.) : "Now Eros the wise, the self-taught, the manager of the ages, knocked at the gloomy gates of primeval Khaos. He took out the divine quiver, in which were kept apart twelve firefed arrows for Zeus, when his desire turned towards one or another of mortal women for a bride.

Ovid, Metamorphoses 10. 525 ff (trans. Melville) (Roman epic C1st B.C. to C1st A.D.) : "Once, when Venus’son [Eros] was kissing her, his quiver dangling down, a jutting arrow, unbeknown, had grazed her breast. She pushed the boy away. In face the wound was deeper than it seemed, though unperceived at first. [And she became] enraptured by the beauty of a man [Adonis]."

Nonnus, Dionysiaca 15. 220 ff : "The deceiver Eros excited the longing herdsman [Hymnos], and shook him with yet stronger passion [for the nymphe Nikaia]."

Nonnus, Dionysiaca 48. 470 ff : "Eros drove Dionysos mad for the girl [Aura] with the delicious wound of his arrow, then curving his wings flew lightly to Olympos. And the god roamed over the hills scourged with a greater fire.

Musaeus, Hero and Leander 20 ff (Greek poetry C5th - 6th A.D.) : "And Eros (Love) upstrained his bow, shot forth a single shaft into both cities together, kindling a youth [Leander] and maiden [Hero]."

Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica 3. 25 ff (trans. Rieu) (Greek epic C3rd B.C.) : "[Hera addresses Athene :] `We must have a word with Aphrodite. Let us go together and ask her to persuade her boy, if that is possible, to loose an arrow at Aeetes’ daughter, Medea of the many spells, and make her fall in love with Iason . . .’

All of those are sources from the First Century CE or later, whereas Eratosthenes was a Hellene of the 3rd Century BCE, and therefore a better source on Greek religion and myth before the Roman conquest (and imposition of foreign cultural perspectives) 208.102.87.91 (talk) 09:28, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both of these editors are correct, however, (talk) cannot keep the other definition out of this page. It is a well known historic fact and being uncomfortable or just disagreeing with centuries worth of material simply by stating the sources were conquerors and re-wrote the definition is completely original research and unacceptable.--69.62.180.178 (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of Plato's Symposium?! (Specifically, the parts where Socrates and Diotime speak.) Mat334 01:26, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No, no, just untainted gay delirium here. F_Cangon

The Greek spelling of "eros" would be a nice addition to the article. I believe it's ερως (not sure though)

PEOPLE THINKS THAT LOVE IS RIGHT FOR YOU FOR SOMPEOPLE IT IS BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE IT AINT

Eros is a far more ancient diety than those gods of the Pan-Hellenic pantheon, this article does not reflect this properly

Links to http://ancientrome.ru/

That`s not spam, but illustrative material, so why do you think that`s spam? It doesn`t consist of advertising links or advertising text and totally corresponds to the refferences and supplements them. Wikipedia has lotta other exemples of links with illustrative material, so this site isn`t the exception. See for instance Forum Romanum: there are lotta links of different sites but the links of ancientrome.ru are deleated. That was http://ancientrome.ru/art/artworken/result.htm?alt=Roman+Forum&pnumber=20 --User:The one who wants to make Wiki better 3:26, 9 January 2007

The elder Eros?

I've just been reading about the primordial Gods - Chaos, Nox etc - who were around even before Uranus, father of Kronos. One of this earlier family appears to be called "Eros" too - presumably, he ruled over the passions before they became the preserve of the younger gods. In these essays, this god is often referenced as "The elder Eros". I came to this page via a redirect from Eros (god). I have a feeling someone may have turned a stub into a redirect, being unaware of the existence of two different greek gods, both called Eros. This Eros (older than Zeus) certainly was not the offspring of Aphrodite and Ares. PaulHammond (talk) 15:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the intro, first line of second paragraph reads: "According to tradition which was made by Eratosthenes, Eros was principally the patron of the people who like to have computers, while Aphrodite ruled the love between men and women." I assume this was somebody fooling around, so I thought I'd bring it to attention, I'd fix it myself but I'm just beginning figuring out how to edit. Also, I agree with the above posts that Eros was nowhere near only the patron of homosexual love, but love in general- heterosexual love playing just as large a role. See the 2nd century Greek novel Daphnis and Chloe for examples in this if you want Alex8541 (talk) 16:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

Someone more technically capable than me please create a disambiguation link at the top of this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.218.165 (talk) 02:03, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

Someone more technically capable than me please create a disambiguation link at the top of this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.218.165 (talk) 02:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Conner" citation (Note 11)

I'm afraid I don't understand how to edit the Notes list, but note number 11 is in dire need of a rewrite. The contributor who added it unfortunately failed to even list the name of the book being cited, and for some reason lists the author as "Conner" even though Conner is only one of multiple authors for what is a collective work. The actual book being cited here is Cassell's Encyclopedia of Queer Myth, Symbol and Spirit. The entry is indeed on page 139 (at least as of the 1997 edition of this encyclopedia), but dictionaries and encyclopedia probably ought to be cited by the name of the passage in question, since the passages are listed alphabetically. In this case, the passage from p. 139 is predictably titled "Eros". I hope someone with a better understanding of how the Notes section is populated can somehow correct this troubling error which has undoubtedly left many readers wondering where the cited information actually came from. --Uiscefada (talk) 08:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Eros' Father

It says in the article that "In later myths, he was the son of the deities Aphrodite and Ares" & even on the page about Ares, it says that he is the father of Eros. Actually, in Greek mythology, it is greatly disputed as to who the father of Eros is. Even Zeus is said to be the father of Eros.

https://www.thetoptens.com/m/clusium/400988/ --Splashen (talk) 15:00, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article on #Porus_(mythology) has Porus as the father of Eros definitively. 'The Great Greek Myths' tv series also has the father of Eros as Porus, yet presumably the sources aren't valid enough even for consideration in this intrinsically linked article, a common thread in the appalling contradictory, hypocritical nature of this platform. Gar P Young (talk) 22:34, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]