User talk:Teleoid
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October 2018
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Alicia anisopetala, from its old location at User:Teleoid/sandbox/Alicia anisopetala. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 20:25, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. (Specifically, the section titled Intentional harrassment by Hemiauchenia') Nat Gertler (talk) 05:57, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
John A. McDougall advocacy edits
Do you care to explain why you are so pro- John A. McDougall? It seems you will not accept any valid criticisms. You talk about balance, but you will not accept a single critical source.
A possible issue is that you may not be aware of the type of pseudoscience McDougall advocates. Here is a recent video from John A. McDougall calling angioplasty a scam [1]. Here is another recent video of John A. McDougall on Chef AJ's channel claiming colonoscopy is a scam and that people should avoid them [2]. If you check the comments in these videos, all the top rated comments are from die-hard McDougall fans claiming all doctors are scam artists and that people should run away from hospitals and ignore advice from their doctors and follow McDougall's diet. Any critical comments are removed. You seem to be oblivious to how harmful this type of misinformation can be. Let me ask you, are you one of these people that also believes the medical community is a scam? Hopefully you do not really believe in these conspiracy theories. Contrary to what McDougall might say, doctors are not the enemy out to get you! Psychologist Guy (talk) 16:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- No, and I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're idealising. His general direction is objectively good: eat plants, less fat. People feel better, get healthier and lose weight.
- Now we can debate McDougall's more controversial advice, but he deserves a fair assessment nevertheless. The issue is even if he's as bad as you think he is, he deserves a strong and impartial (!) sourcing, and not from some biased and outdated "physiologist" who has contempt for all vegan diets. This is evidence that Butler doesn't know, has the wrong arguments and holds no evidence, but is of course on point regarding homeopathy, faith-healing, etc.
- I think the gatekeeping crusade you're conducting is unjust and frankly inhumane, even accounting for McDougall getting it wrong at times.
- Above all, the man has done a net positive contribution, so if you're going to be crucifying him you can do it with evidence and without muddying the water. Teleoid (talk) 17:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- The eat plants, less fat approach has been promoted by mainstream health authorities for decades. We have known about this since Ancel Keys time and before that. You don't need McDougall for that advice. He takes low-fat advice to its extreme. It is not sound nutritional advice to avoid all nuts, seeds, oils or avocado and to say these things cause obesity or cancer. We know that is not true. I recently listened to an interview with McDougall he said over half of the vegan community are obese and this is the result of vegans eating nuts, seeds and avocado. Really? When was the last time you saw an obese vegan? This is a made up statistic that he wouldn't be able to support with evidence. Over the years I have attended plenty of vegan and vegetarian conferences, food festivals and events. I can tell you I have never met a fat vegan yet McDougall claims over half of the entire community of vegans are obese. As for health data, you can easily look up reviews, nut consumption is not associated with weight gain, the results show the opposite. You don't hear about people staying on the McDougall diet for 10 or 20 years. It's a highly restrictive fad diet. If you want to promote a vegan diet, you should be sensible and do something that is sustainable long-term. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've seen many fat vegans and I was one of them for 10+ years so seen one in the mirror every single day. I agree most vegans are slightly overweight.
- We don't know if oil contributes to cancer and neither does McDougall, but he has every right to suspect and share his opinions.
- If he eats turkey twice a year, who gives a shit? What purism are you defending?
- Nuts, seeds, oils and avocado are totally irrelevant, I don't understand your obsession with oil. Rice, beans and vegetables works just fine on their own.
- If you want to see a long termer who does great go see Chef AJ again.
- Getting hung up on every controversial statement like that, I think your hatred for the man is irrational. I also think you're supporting the wrong team, a bit split internally if you ask me. Teleoid (talk) 22:47, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- The eat plants, less fat approach has been promoted by mainstream health authorities for decades. We have known about this since Ancel Keys time and before that. You don't need McDougall for that advice. He takes low-fat advice to its extreme. It is not sound nutritional advice to avoid all nuts, seeds, oils or avocado and to say these things cause obesity or cancer. We know that is not true. I recently listened to an interview with McDougall he said over half of the vegan community are obese and this is the result of vegans eating nuts, seeds and avocado. Really? When was the last time you saw an obese vegan? This is a made up statistic that he wouldn't be able to support with evidence. Over the years I have attended plenty of vegan and vegetarian conferences, food festivals and events. I can tell you I have never met a fat vegan yet McDougall claims over half of the entire community of vegans are obese. As for health data, you can easily look up reviews, nut consumption is not associated with weight gain, the results show the opposite. You don't hear about people staying on the McDougall diet for 10 or 20 years. It's a highly restrictive fad diet. If you want to promote a vegan diet, you should be sensible and do something that is sustainable long-term. Psychologist Guy (talk) 21:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)