Talk:Oscar Werner Tiegs

New article

Micro stub created. Peet Ern (talk) 23:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Start class content and possibly even C class or better content will be available within one or two weeks. Peet Ern (talk) 23:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Notability

• Awarded the David Syme Research Prize
• Awarded the Clarke Medal
• Held a Rockefellow Traveling Fellowship
• His "studies in classical invertebrate embryology [are considered to be] comparable to the very best work of the last century" [1]

and the above is not half of it.

Peet Ern (talk) 23:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

• Hmm. I deleted this but I've changed my mind. I suggest the article is improved quickly to prove notability before someone else comes along and deletes it. — Xy7 (talk) 00:22, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the deletion tags and added some awards. A Foundation Fellow of the Australian Academy of Science can really not be anything other than notable. I have also added links where his name appears in other articles. I'll try to find his AAS Biography that would have been published after his death. --Bduke (Discussion) 00:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I have his Royal Society orbiturary, the ABD from ANU, and Melbourne University stuff, Tiegs Musuem stuff, and have been offered family photographs, etc., . . . Peet Ern (talk) 01:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Draft available

If any one is interested, I now have a FIRST DRAFT available at User:Pee Tern/owt.

Comments and suggestions are welcome, but put them on this talk page please.

Peet Ern (talk) 01:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Now here in main space and being worked on. Peet Ern (talk) 01:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

To do list

• Copy edit the draft
• Tidy up current references
• Use award templates
• Check all relevant categories
• Prepare and upload images
• Chase down other references

Help required

The following items are the result of original research and-or I cannot find references for:

• Oscar Tiegs was called Werner by his siblings, and Uncle Werner by his nieces and nephew.
• Oscar Tiegs could attend a concert and after hearing a piece of music for the first time come home and play it relatively faithfully on the piano.
• His father was known to be an importer and exporter by his daughters, not a pharmicist or engineer.
• His father was a fastidious collector, amassing a collection of several 10s of thousand postage stamps, and had an inclination to keep product samples sets which consisted of many protoforms.
  • Perhaps OScar Tiegs' primary traits of collection and pattern recognition came from his father rather than a primary trait of learning and natural science?
• There are several references to his command of English and clarity of expression. His sisters when in private would speak German to each other, so it is likely that Oscar Tiegs' first language was not English but German, even though he was born in Australia, but to native German speaking parents. Hence the significance of the references to Oscar Tiegs' language skills could be more significant than they appear.

Can you help by finding references for any of the above?

In my opinion, none of them are that encyclopedic, so just mess them out if you do have good sources.--Bduke (Discussion) 02:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Encyclopedic - yep I was thinking along those lines too, so it will not stress me if they come to nothing.

Sorry, but I am still learning wikispeak; what do you mean by just mess them out  ?

Peet Ern (talk) 04:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Apologies. It is a typo. I intended to say "just miss (i.e leave) them out, if you do not have good sources". --Bduke (Discussion) 09:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

C-Class assessment

@Opencooper: I note your assessment of this as C class. Any particular reasons ? That is, where would suggest to start work to get it up to B class ? Aoziwe (talk) 14:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

User:Meno25 was the one who actually assessed but I'll try to give my own opinion. C-class signifies that "The article is substantial, but is still missing important content or contains much irrelevant material." Glancing over it, I see good coverage of his biographical details, as well as his work in Zoology so personally I would have rated it B-class since it looks pretty complete. Everything is exceptionally sourced so that's not an issue. Maybe Meno25 would be able to tell you what they saw as missing. By the way, interesting use of the {{finedetail}} template, though it took me a while to realize that the popup was just a citation and that you had to hover to get the fine details; I think actual notes using {{efn}} might work better for this purpose since they can be sourced as well. Opencooper (talk) 14:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

@Opencooper: Apologies for this mistake. I didn't sleep well on the day I accessed this article, so, I didn't concentrate well. Rerated the article as B. --Meno25 (talk) 14:34, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

No worries :). Rating articles can be pretty subjective and I'm sure you had a lot of them to assess so you had to make quick judgements. It happens. Opencooper (talk) 14:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks User:Meno25 and User:Opencooper. Aoziwe (talk) 12:53, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Siblings

Article stated that Tiegs had 2 sisters, Olga Pauline and Edna, but provided no reference.

Tiegs actually had 4 sisters, but one died 1 day old, and another died before her 3rd birthday. He was survived by Olga and Edna.

All of the above is available via Queensland Government on-line births deaths and marriages records.

I will try and find, or construct, appropriate references. Aoziwe (talk) 02:34, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done Aoziwe (talk) 12:31, 17 January 2022 (UTC)