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[edit]It isn't inconsistent. At all. There are short form citations in the form of "Author Title of work page number" and then there are full references in a reference section. There is not a single inconsitency there. Citations do not have to use Template:sfn to be consitent. Please kindly restore the previous version. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:42, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- Why does one footnote include the name of what I presume to be a chapter when the other does not? I have never known that to be included in a citation when there is (as best as I can tell) a single author for the entirety of the work, and it seems odd that one footnote would include it when the other does not.
- In addition, I fail to see why we wouldn't want to include anchor links. And I've never seen a style that spells out the word "second" rather than "2nd" with respect to the edition of a work.
- Lastly, was it your intention to reinsert see also links in violation of MOS:EMBED? Graham (talk) 20:53, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- Graham, the citation style shouldn't be changed over objections, per WP:CITEVAR. If there's something inconsistent about the previous version, it can be fixed without templates. There seems no point in adding a template to help us jump a few lines. SarahSV (talk) 20:55, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- WP:CITEVAR doesn't apply when there is not a "consistent citation style" and the two footnotes don't seem consistent, as I noted. And it may just be jumping a few lines now, but I would like to hope the article is expanded eventually. Graham (talk) 20:59, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- (ec)It's an encyclopedia - the citation is to the specific entry. Standard for that type of work. You cite to the "article" just as you would in a journal. Entries in that encyclopedia are written by differing authors, this one just happens to be written by the editor also. The Saul entry SHOULD be a "cite encyclopedia" template, not a cite book. No idea how that got borked. I shall fix that if we can return to the previous style. I don't mind the removal of the extra external links (frankly, all of them should go). We do not have to include author links - they were not needed for something this short. It just adds extra complexity. As to expansion, there really isn't a lot TO expand to. As far as I know, there aren't any book length or monograph length discussions of this particular subject devoted to just it rather than treating it as a part of government processes in general. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:02, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Victoria (Ealdgyth): While it seems silly to me to insist on a non-standard format, unlike anything I've seen in or outside of Wikipedia, I'm not going to start a war over citation formatting of all things. Go ahead and return to the previous style (except with Saul noted as the editor in the bibliography with {{cite encyclopedia}}) if you must, though I still fail to see the rationale. cc: Sarah (SlimVirgin) Cheers, Graham (talk) 21:14, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for being gracious. And helping find errors. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:25, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, Graham. SarahSV (talk) 21:46, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for being gracious. And helping find errors. Ealdgyth - Talk 21:25, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Victoria (Ealdgyth): While it seems silly to me to insist on a non-standard format, unlike anything I've seen in or outside of Wikipedia, I'm not going to start a war over citation formatting of all things. Go ahead and return to the previous style (except with Saul noted as the editor in the bibliography with {{cite encyclopedia}}) if you must, though I still fail to see the rationale. cc: Sarah (SlimVirgin) Cheers, Graham (talk) 21:14, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- Graham, the citation style shouldn't be changed over objections, per WP:CITEVAR. If there's something inconsistent about the previous version, it can be fixed without templates. There seems no point in adding a template to help us jump a few lines. SarahSV (talk) 20:55, 18 August 2016 (UTC)