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Perhaps this should be semi-protected?

Perhaps this should be semi-protected, seeing as it has already been vandalized a few times? (BroderTuc (talk) 02:31, 8 May 2018 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BroderTuc (talk • contribs) 02:25, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Those sort of requests go at WP:RPP - GalatzTalk 13:57, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It a match Gaza3456 (talk) 02:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No holds barred match

Daniel bryan vs big cass in no holds barred match Gaza3456 (talk) 02:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That match hasn't been announced or confirmed by WWE, therefor it won't be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.94.233.14 (talk) 14:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pointless back and forth

Regarding edits made by User:KingOfTheRing and User:The Ruler Of All Water, for example:

Can you desist from such pointless back and forths? This article is a work in progress and won't be finshed until after the event. By then, all this squibbling over the order of the matches will be superseded by the sequence in which the matches are actually held. There is no binding rule dictating any order of matches, though Ruler Of All Water's "in the order they were added" makes more practical sense as every new match can be added further down on the list. Str1977 (talk) 17:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC) PS. For the matches>results section that is. For the storylines section, matches are mentioned in an order that makes sense, e.g. if match X derives from a feud which started with an angle belonging to the background of match Y, obviously storyline Y should be covered first. But usually match Y is also the one that was scheduled earlier. Str1977 (talk) 18:01, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We always do it in this order from top to bottom:
  • RAW World Title Match
  • SmackDown World Title Match
  • Intercontinental Title
  • United States Title
  • RAW Women’s Title
  • SmackDown Women’s Title
  • RAW Tag Team Titles
  • Smackdown Tag Team Titles
  • Cruiserweight Title
  • Any other non-Title matches by order of relevance.
It has been this way for YEARS now. No organization by access date, no organization by date retrieved. In this case, much like with the Royal Rumble PPV where we put the Rumble matches above the world title matches and everything else, since this PPV is Money In The Bank, the two MITB ladder matches usually per tradition go above everything else in the table before the show airs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingOfTheRing (talk • contribs) 19:18, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, you are wasting your time and everybody else's time, creating unnecessary edit conflicts on the way.
BTW, there is no "RAW World title" nor is Universal title higher than the WWE World Championship (which is on Smackdown). "Oder of relevance" is pretty subjective. Str1977 (talk) 21:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I must say that order that YOU have done for years makes absolutely no sense. So little sense in fact that I absolutely HATE it. Nothing makes any of those titles make more sense, plus having the world titles first is the opposite of logic because it never is the opening match and so why put it first before? The most logical way of doing it before the event is order the matches are announced, and as they are announced you just add it to the bottom. - GalatzTalk 00:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just because you hate it means that it can't be done? That's not how it works. In ascending order from bottom to top, the matches are in order of relevance. No clue how you think that means I think that the World title match will kick off the show. I have changed it to this format for the last several PPV's and it was never changed. That's what confuses me most. All of a sudden for this article it's a huge issue. KingOfTheRing (talk) 01:39, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And on top of that, several times I have asked those against my format to provide me with a link to PROOF that I am doing it wrong, PROOF that it says somewhere in Wrestling Wikipedia Article rules that the match table is organized by date announced, and I have never been given anything KingOfTheRing (talk) 01:41, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I am aware there is nothing supporting your stance nor any other. Therefore you have no proof that what you are doing is right. I therefore started a thread in the wikiproject to discuss. - GalatzTalk 13:08, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, we always use the order of announcment. We can't choose the order of relevance, it would be WP:OR. For example, for me the cruiserweight title is more important than the SD women title. Or the Universal (no RAW) title is less important than the WWE (no SmackDown) World Title. Also, at Backlash the main event (aka, most relevant match) was a no-title match. Same as Survivor Series Goldberg vs Lesnar. Again, we can't decide the relevance of the matches. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:44, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Dear Galatz, I'm afraid it is now you who is engaging in a pointless back and forth, wasting time and edits.
While KingOfTheRing was wrong in claiming that there was a rule that matches should be sorted by importance, neither is there a rule that they must be sorted chronologically by order of when they were scheduled. Doing so is merely the most convenient way to do it.
While I see no point in changing anything until the event - all of it - has concluded (and though I know there will be several editors inserting match details even before the end of a match), neither is there a point in constantly reverting such changes IF it is clear that such will correspond to what the table will look like in the end. And that is the case here: if one match is now scheduled for the preshow (and only one), it is clear that it be the first in the list. We can just as much keep it that way.
I will not waste any time or edits to take part in this pointless back and forth and I am calling on you, Galatz, to do the same. The same goes for the editors (or editor?) who change the match sequence now: User:Pekay8, User:ThisLoudMorningxThisQuietNight, User:BITW1611.
This back and forth bloats the revision history, making it less transparent and also bring with it the danger of edits getting lost in this cnstant reverting, it is disruptive. Str1977 (talk) 18:59, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You see, if a match is on the kick off, it will be the FIRST match of the night, because it takes place prior to the main show. That's what preliminary means. So maybe y'all should just leave it alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThisLoudMorningxThisQuietNight (talk • contribs) 00:37, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's actually not what preliminary means. All matches, save for the main event, are preliminary. And WP doesn't use WWE lingo like "kickoff". Str1977 (talk) 11:42, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Color coding the matches

I know it wasnt done during the first brand split, but shouldn't the inter-promotional PPVs have the brand matches color coding much like the brand PPVs are done? Beast in the East having the NXT Title match in yellow, SummerSlam having the SD WWE/WHC match in blue, RAWs World title matches in Red, 205Live matches in purple.

172.90.216.7 (talk) 22:06, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tag Team money n the bank

There will be a Tag Team Money N the Bank Ladder Match Infinite Kid (talk) 15:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No. Nickag989talk 08:37, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tag team titles

There is going to be a match between Matt Hardy and Bray Wyatt vs Bo Dallas and Curtis Axle for the Raw tag team championship Nslewallen (talk) 05:38, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source? Donnowin1 (talk) 23:57, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"There is going to be a match between Matt Hardy and Bray Wyatt vs Bo Dallas and Curtis Axle for the Raw tag team championship" - that much is right. But they nowhere said it would be on MITB. Hence, anything pertaining to that match is irrelevant here. Given that nothing was said about this on the going-home Raw, it is unlikely that the match will be on the PPV. Str1977 (talk) 08:24, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Point about match order according to WP:PW/SG...

I constantly see Galatz and everyone else being incredibly poignant all of a sudden about the match table going in a certain way.... "we put the matches in the order they were announced".... DO YOU ALL REALIZE THAT WP:PW/SG SAYS THE FOLLOWING UNDER "RESULTS" AND NOT "MATCHES"

"Match results are compiled into a table format—using

No.ResultsStipulations

—that includes the order in which they occurred, their stipulations, and their duration. Other details should be established in the event section"

There isn't even any section in that entire article that is labeled "MATCHES". RESULTS are during/after the show occurs. Before the show begins, it is MATCHES. Therefore, OBVIOUSLY the RESULTS would be organized in the order the matches occurred in, but there is absolutely nothing that says that they must be a certain order while as "Matches". Thoughts? KingOfTheRing (talk) 18:50, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are right that is no rule that dictates who "Matches" are organized before the event. However, those opposing you never claimed that such a rule exists. Adding new matches at the bottom is merely the easiest way to go about it. Any attempt to change the sequence to conform to an invented rule is disrupting the work on the article as diffs become unclear and intermediate edits might get lost on the way. Str1977 (talk) 13:07, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@KingOfTheRing: That is a terrible argument. You know the intent of the section. But due to your petty argument I will request that be clarified in the SG. - GalatzTalk 13:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Theme Song

The official Theme Song for Money in the Bank is "Money" TheBigBoss3900 (talk) 11:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source? - GalatzTalk 13:57, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kick Off Match announced by WWE

Can someone please add the Smackdown Tag Title Match as a Pre-Show match. WWE has confirmed it https://www.wwe.com/shows/moneyinthebank/2018#full-detail-40043274

Tagline

Why isn’t the tagline mentioned on the poster added to the article. I was checking some of the older PPV and all of them mention the tagline written on the poster. Ron234 (talk) 11:30, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tagline

Why isn’t the tagline mentioned on the poster added to the article. I was checking some of the older PPV and all of them mention the tagline written on the poster. Ron234 (talk) 11:30, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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