Talk:First Herat War

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On 5 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Siege of Herat (1837–1838) to First Herat War. The result of the discussion was moved.

McNeil

Who is McNeil? This article would be improved if someone could insert a brief clause to describe his role at the place in the article where he is first mentioned (I assume he was sent on diplomatic mission to the Shah from Britain, but this is not clear.) Please feel free to remove this message when you've done this. RuthLivingstone (talk) 08:00, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Someone pulled him out on 3 January. I thought they would continue so I did nothing. He's back now. The whole thing looks anglocentric and I expect someone will overwrite it with the Persian version.Benjamin Trovato (talk) 00:41, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article is heavily based on obsolete, 19th century or so British sources (aka old propaganda). It mentions almost nothing about the other side. See also Izydor Borowski - article about the Polish commander of the Iranian side. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:48, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I noted the same thing 4 years ago (above). I am still waiting for the Persian version. Benjamin Trovato (talk) 18:32, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works 09:02, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– Both articles are about the entire campaigns not just the sieges of Herat. This leads to awkwardness in the lead. The proposed titles are used in, e.g., War and Peace in Qajar Persia: Implications Past and Present, edited by Roxane Farmanfarmaian. "First Herat War" is in fact the common name; "Second Herat War" is rarer since it is usually treated in the context of the Anglo-Persian War. Srnec (talk) 02:38, 5 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:43, 12 May 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 12:40, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Iran has been notified of this discussion. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:44, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ModernDayTrilobite and Extorc: No minimum participation is required for requested moves. If no one has objected, go ahead and perform the move as requested unless it is out of keeping with naming conventions or is otherwise in conflict with applicable guidelines or policy. Srnec (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.