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Trivia Removed

While this may have a citation:

There was a case where two kindergarteners had sex in their classroom.[1]

There is absolutely no relevance to the episode. -- Ubergenius 17:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is about Ike, who is a kindergartener. One would usually think that kindergarteners are not sexually active.

Perhaps, but this isn't an article about kindergarten sexuality, it is about a South Park episode. If you want to mention something to the effect of kindergarten sexuality is abnormal, that is fine and relevant, but simply referencing an event in which 2 kindergarten students (NOT a teacher-student, as shown in the episode) is not relevant. -- Ubergenius 01:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the episode still reflects on what seems to be abnormal kindergarten sexuality.

Quotes

Why were the quotes removed?

This sounds controversial

Judging from the title and the description, this sounds like a controversial episode (not that any other episode has ever been controversial) especially with all those court cases with perverts and illicit affairs of teachers with students. I will be interested in the response this episode will have. 60.242.25.74 07:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

doubt this will be controversial. Everyone knows it's a satire. This isn't the first time they've done this, and I think they know what they're doing. They've taken measures and are airing this officialy. Just my belief.--SangP 16:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It will most definately be controversial, but this is absolutely nothing new to South Park, especially recently, with Cartoon Wars I & II, Manbearpig (denouncing global warming), Trapped in the Closet (attacked Scientology), Follow That Egg (supporting gay marriage), and Best Friends Forever (Terri Schiavo commentary), and these are just in seasons 9 and 10. -- Ubergenius 18:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Stone and Parker were making fun of some liberals supporting gay marriage and exaggerating the effects of global warming. This does not mean that they oppose these oppinions. When interviewed, S&P say that the oppinion of the show must not match their own; a funny show is more important to them than expressing their values. --Stephanbim 07:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure that some of their beliefs seep into the material, it's inevitable, them being human and all. But I agree that there task is much more aimed at poking fun at anything that is rediculous rather than pushing an agenda. -- 14:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Those views do seem to mirror the vies of the libertarian party, which at least one or BOTH of the creators are apart of.
The last time they did something like this was in Cartman Joins NAMBLA and it didn't really bring that much contoversy, but then again the only sex that took place was not with any minors.. 60.242.25.74 10:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cartman Joins NAMBLA is about the stupidity of Cartman and how misinformed about sexual and puberty issues the boys are. Cartman thought buying pubic hair onset puberty(Scott Tenorman Must Die). The issues they're raising are about the sexual double standards that exsiste. Most people don't think of women as being pedophiles or that a boy having sex at a young age with someone in a position of trust and authority is harmful if it is with a woman. The police are initially concered when they think it's a male teacher sleeping with a student, but no longer care when it's a female teacher. And neither do the male townspeople. Age of consent and statutory rape laws were written for girls. From Statutory rape#Sex differences in statutory rape:

"In the past, sex involving an adult female and an underage male was often ignored by the law, as many believed that this was not a traumatic or negative experience for teenage boys.
Homosexual relationships between adults and minors are typically prosecuted more strongly, especially when the couple is male. In Kansas, if someone 18 or younger has sex with a minor no more than four years younger, a "Romeo and Juliet" law limits the penalty substantially. This law, however, had been written so as not to apply to same-sex couples, leading to significantly higher penalties for the same act. "

--Rowenlynn 03:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do we hardly ever mention female to female stationary rape? 6:46 P.M 11 September 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.235.135.125 (talk) 10:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stationary as opposed to... moving?
I think it's because rape is so strongly linked to male-to-female cases that hardly anyone wonders about the opposite, let alone gay and lesbian rape. - Redmess (talk) 20:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alcoholism?

Where in the refrence does it state that its a parody of Foley? Pogo 02:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An editor messed up and moved the refrence down one...no harm done.  :) Pogo 02:31, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


dang this aired not 156 minutes ago...and theres already an article on it...talk about fast ~smurfster

Actually, we set up the article beforehand, and people add information while the episode is going on. Pogo 04:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a spoof on how so many (possibly most) people involved in any form of scandal use the excuse of being an alcoholic. Funny coincidence since me and my friend were just discussing this trend before the episode came out. --Exander 07:11, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surprised

just surprised there isn't any article on bear mase(mace) on wiki.. --SangP 05:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

there is an article on bear mace, you spelt it wrong Pacman 16:55, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Foley?

I highly doubt there's any joke about Mark Foley, it's just a generic SP cop joke: "lololol you shot a guy for no reason?" --?


I think I remember a cop being called Foley in an older episode, too. I don't think that's actually referencing Mark Foley. --Vyran 20:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see a possibility of a Foley joke, but it's not related to the police.
Foley recently blamed alcohol for his behavior in his response. The teacher did the same thing.
--Kevin L'Huillier 22:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't Foaly just a couple of weeks ago? This episode had to have been finished before then. 131.128.147.62 04:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think the main southpark wiki article could explain it better than i can "while episodes of South Park have been completed in as little as three days.[9] This allows current events that occur mere days before episode air dates are often included, such as the capture of Saddam Hussein to be mentioned." Moon Stone 06:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I really didnt get the Foley comments on the article here. I agree the cop bit was a generic joke and the teacher with an alcohol problem was linked with Mel Gibson so i think that can be ruled out. Personally i think the Foley stuff should be removed as it doesnt read well in the article and was very vague (if even there) in the actual episode Perry mason 04:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

The picture should be of the teacher, since it would relate to the title better. Pacman 16:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's the same picture they show for the episode on South Park Studios, so I think that's the closest thing to an "official" image that there is. --Vyran 20:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't mean it's a good picture. I'd also say another one would be better for the infobox. — Mütze 17:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The intent isn't to be a "good" picture (which is very subjective, by the way). The intent is to be an official episode picture. If you want to include that picture, it can exist in some form in another place in the article, but the infobox picture should be the official image. -- Ubergenius 15:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cartman Quote

In the episode, Cartman said variations of "That's cool, I'm done making my video anyways." Does anyone know what this is from? It seems like it could be a generic youtube reference, but it could relate to the bounty hunter show... I don't know. Any suggestions? --LinkDJ 20:36, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably got nothing to do even with YouTube, not every joke is a reference. This is South Park, not Simpsons. — Mütze 17:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AVTRIV

Please read the above guideline. Trivia should be integrated into paragraphs, not listed. Lists are unsightly. Mr Spunky Toffee 17:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I won't argue with your point to a need of change, as it is a Wikipedia rule. However, I disagree that lists are unsightly. I find them wildly convenient, easy to read, and highly informative, especially for trivia. -- Ubergenius 15:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mel Gibson

Quoting from the Trivia: "Cartman even proclaims that she is using "The Mel Gibson Defense" which is a reference to the public apologies Gibson made regarding the highly offensive, antisemitic language that he used when he got arrested by a (female) jewish police officer for driving drunk. This also seems somewhat out of character for Cartman, as he has shown signs of idolizing Gibson and hating Jews, even to the point of trying to exterminate the Jews after seeing The Passion of the Christ. However his views could have changed after he saw Gibson was completely insane and defecated on Cartman." I don't agree that it was out of character for Cartman. Perhaps he's still idolising Mell Gibson. Him saying "My god, she's using the Mel Gibson defense!" doesn't indicate at all he dislikes Mell Gibson. To teh contrary, knowing Cartman, I'm sure he repects the sheer mind manupilation skills the teacher showed when using the Mel Gibson defence, and repects Gibson himself even more for inventing it. The Mel Gibson defence is something very effective, which is why Cartman didn't like her using it. it doesn't mean he doesn't like Mel Gibson, the creator of the defense. I'm sure he adores him for it. 83.134.144.162 18:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine to me. Cartman would like to see her behind the bars, so knowing that she will end up without any punishment must have made him mad.Dnak 22:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stevenson or Stephenson?

Is it Miss Stevenson or Miss Stephenson? I watch South Park with closed captioning, and it spelled it out as Stephenson. Any clarifications on this? --Geopgeop 09:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since there is no reason to believe that it is spelt with a V, I'll change it to PH for now. Thanks. — Mütze 17:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Has this teacher been mentioned before in the show? I seem to vaguely remember a Ms. Stephenson being mentioned in previous episodes but never shown, but I do not remember exactly when, and I don't have the time to re-watch all the episodes right now (although I'm sure I will soon enough). Anyone know? -- Ubergenius 15:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Milan = Mulan?

During the scene when miss Stevenson breaks out with Ike she says that they can go to Milan, just as they wanted, though when Ike repeats it sounds more like "Mulan" - a pretty nice Disney movie. Since Ike talks in a very inarticulate way she might have misunderstood him. Dnak 22:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's funny, I never noticed that!

I think we should take the Mulan/Milan comment down. If Ike really thought he was going to see Mulan why did he spend the night with her in the airport hotel. I think that Stone and Parker were just making this episode as crazy and unbelievable as possible. Kind of like the episode Scott Tenermann Must Die! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.6.19 (talk) 13:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

...

Cartman looks like the guy from the tv-show " dog the bounty-hunter"

I hope you don't think that's in any way coincidental, seeing as the episode is a parody of him and includes a Cartman rendition of the Theme song to that show. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.78.3.48 (talk) 17:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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Music

There are two pieces of music used in the episode does anyone know what they are? (no it's not a trivia, I genuinely don't know. May be worth adding to the artcile) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.45.26.26 (talk) 12:17, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deborah LaFave

It makes no mention in the article, but this episode is a blatant spoof of the Deborah LaFave case that was going on at the time. From how Ms. Stephenson is an attractive blonde, to how she gets off nearly scot-free after being arrested and having the gravity of the crimes minimized due to her appearance (Many argue that LaFave used her physical appearance to her advantage to avoid jail time) to how Ms. Stephenson blames her actions on alcoholism (While a reference to Mel Gibson, it is also referencing how LaFave blames her actions on bipolar disorder) there just seems to be a lot of parallels between the two. Karrmann (talk) 17:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suicide

Jim Michael, the inclusion of this article in Category:Suicide in television is clearly not supported by the relevant guideline. Suicide is not a defining characteristic of the episode and the character committing suicide cannot be accurately described as a protagonist. I don't care enough to carry on with this but felt like this needed stating outside of an edit summary. —DangerousJXD (talk) 10:57, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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