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Hello, Legoktm,
I think the bot needs to be restarted or get a tune-up. It's not just the report I use, it looks like it overslept. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 03:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 13 February 2024
- News and notes: Wikimedia Russia director declared "foreign agent" by Russian gov; EU prepares to pile on the papers
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Tech News: 2024-07
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The WDQS Graph Split experiment is working and loaded onto 3 test servers. The team in charge is testing the split's impact and requires feedback from WDQS users through the UI or programmatically in different channels. [1][2][3] Users' feedback will validate the impact of various use cases and workflows around the Wikidata Query service. [4][5]
Problems
- There was a bug that affected the appearance of visited links when using mobile device to access wiki sites. It made the links appear black; this issue is fixed.
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 February. It will be on all wikis from 15 February (calendar). [6][7]
As work continues on the grid engine deprecation,[8] tools on the grid engine will be stopped starting on February 14th, 2024. If you have tools actively migrating you can ask for an extension so they are not stopped. [9]
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MediaWiki message delivery 05:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
While investigating why User:B-bot hadn't tagged a particular unused nonfree image - it doesn't matter which one, it turned out to be something completely unrelated - I looked into the query HaleBot uses to update this page (which B-bot uses as a source).
It's not listing any files that are in use in any mainspace, rather than ones that aren't used in the main namespace in particular; and, more problematically, it's not listing files that have any file redirects, whether or not any of those redirects are in use.
In practice, the first isn't much of an issue, since there's at least one bot that removes such uses. The second, though, is; it's causing unused unfree files not to be tagged or deleted, sometimes for a long time. I've looked into two in particular as a sanity check - File:15 (Phatfish album - cover art).jpg (with redirect File:15 cover.jpg) was likely last removed from an article in June 2023, and File:Whitney Houston – One of Those Days.jpg (with redirects File:Houston onethosedays.jpg and File:Whitney Houston - One of Those Days.jpg) was likely last removed in October 2022. I'm seeing nearly 500 such images, comparing quarry:query/80400 to Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused non-free files.
Anyway, my question to you is, are these omissions intentional? It's ok if so, it just means I've got to take this up with User:B instead, and he's mostly inactive. —Cryptic 22:16, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- No, I don't think it's intentional. If you have a better query for HaleBot to use that fixes these issues that would be great, we can get the report updated (otherwise I can try to poke at it...later). Legoktm (talk) 04:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- quarry:query/80422 works, but it's significantly slower - I just timed it at 68 seconds on uncached data, compared to 11.5 for the current version.I suspect the subquery at the end, which checks for usage of a redirect and is most of what slows it down so much, isn't necessary - every use of a file redirect currently has a row in imagelinks both for the redirect and for the file it points to - but I don't know how reliable that is. —Cryptic 08:19, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Possible fix for Legobot "rfc top" issue
Hey,
I just wanted to give this a bump as I think it fell off your talk page during a period when you were inactive. I think I've figured out a fix for Legobot incorrectly matching the {{rfctop}} tag, the details are here in the archive. There's one broken regex that I've suggested a fix for, but I don't have git installed on any of my devices at the moment so couldn't make a pull request for it.
Happy to discuss though, if you get a moment to check it out. :) Sideswipe9th (talk) 04:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! Sorry about not replying earlier. I appreciate you providing a solution but I don't really have the bandwith to fully test it nor be around to fix it if something breaks. So if you have the ability to test it and are confident in it, I'm happy to apply it, but otherwise I'd prefer to stick with the known broken behavior instead of unknowns. Legoktm (talk) 05:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confident if you replace the regex on line 168 with the suggested one in my reply, it will prevent that regex matching on the {{rfctop}} and {{rfcbottom}} tags. That same regex also appears on line 185, where replacing it would have the same effect.
- There are 6 other regexes in rfcbot.php that use the negative lookahead
?(?!\s+(top|bottom))
, these are on lines 147, 149, 190, 205, 206, and 240. I know Enterprisy's 2019 pull requests to prevent Legobot matching on {{rfc top}} and {{rfc bottom}} tags modified all 8 regexes that currently contain this negative lookahead (the line numbers changed between the 2019 pull requests and today, but the regexes themselves haven't). I have manually tested with a regex debugger and I am confident that making my suggested replacement for all 8 of those regexes will have the same effect as the 2019 pull request, plus it will also prevent those regexes from matching on the {{rfctop}} and {{rfcbottom}} tags. I am also confident that this will not stop Legobot from correctly matching on a {{rfc}} tag, with or without an|rfcid=
parameter. - The only thing I'm not sure of is whether you need to replace all 8 instances of of the negative lookahead, or if you only need to change one or both of the instances on lines 168 and 185. Because Enterprisy's original pull requests modified all 8 to prevent matching on {{rfc top}} and {{rfc bottom}} I suspect you might need to replace all 8, as that pull request partially fixed this issue for those two tags specifically. But I can't quite follow the logic flow of the the rfcbot module to be sure which of the 8 regexes are currently erroneously matching on {{rfctop}}, or if replacing all 8 is necessary.
- Sorry if that's a little unclear. I'd love to be able to spin up a webdev environment with both MediaWiki and a Legobot instance to test the modified code in the context of a live page edit, but I'm not able to at the moment, and I can't quite figure out from the documentation what the environment requirements are beyond MediaWiki, Pywikibot, and a current version of PHP. Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-08
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- If you have the "Email me when a page or a file on my watchlist is changed" option enabled, edits by bot accounts no longer trigger notification emails. Previously, only minor edits would not trigger the notification emails. [10]
- There are changes to how user and site scripts load for Vector 2022 on specific wikis. The changes impacted the following Wikis: all projects with Vector legacy as the default skin, Wikivoyage, and Wikibooks. Other wikis will be affected over the course of the next three months. Gadgets are not impacted. If you have been affected or want to minimize the impact on your project, see this ticket. Please coordinate and take action proactively.
- Newly auto-created accounts (the accounts you get when you visit a new wiki) now have the same local notification preferences as users who freshly register on that wiki. It is effected in four notification types listed in the task's description.
- The maximum file size when using Upload Wizard is now 5 GiB. [11]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 February. It will be on all wikis from 22 February (calendar). [12][13]
Selected tools on the grid engine have been stopped as we prepare to shut down the grid on March 14th, 2024. The tool's code and data have not been deleted. If you are a maintainer and you want your tool re-enabled reach out to the team. Only tools that have asked for extension are still running on the grid.
- The CSS
filter
property can now be used in HTMLstyle
attributes in wikitext. [14]
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MediaWiki message delivery 15:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
HaleBot
Hello, Legoktm,
I just thought I'd let you know that Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories hasn't been updated since February 18th. I do have that alternative source for empty categories but in case this is a problem with HaleBot, I thought I'd alert you. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:08, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Ugh, I missed that, thanks. Seems something got stuck on Toolforge, filed T358175. Legoktm (talk) 04:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-09
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The mobile visual editor is now the default editor for users who never edited before, at a small group of wikis. Research shows that users using this editor are slightly more successful publishing the edits they started, and slightly less successful publishing non-reverted edits. Users who defined the wikitext editor as their default on desktop will get the wikitext editor on mobile for their first edit on mobile as well. [15]
The mw.config value
wgGlobalGroups
now only contains groups that are active in the wiki. Scripts no longer have to check whether the group is active on the wiki via an API request. A code example of the above is:if (/globalgroupname/.test(mw.config.get("wgGlobalGroups")))
. [16]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 February. It will be on all wikis from 29 February (calendar). [17][18]
Future changes
- The right to change edit tags (
changetags
) will be removed from users in Wikimedia sites, keeping it by default for admins and bots only. Your community can ask to retain the old configuration on your wiki before this change happens. Please indicate in this ticket to keep it for your community before the end of March 2024.
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MediaWiki message delivery 19:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Template editor/sandbox
Wikipedia:Template editor/sandbox, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Template editor/sandbox and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Template editor/sandbox during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Awesome Aasim 22:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).
- Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
- Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.
- The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)
- The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ*ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
- Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.
The Signpost: 2 March 2024
- News and notes: Wikimedia enters US Supreme court hearings as "the dolphin inadvertently caught in the net"
- Recent research: Images on Wikipedia "amplify gender bias"
- In the media: The Scottish Parliament gets involved, a wikirace on live TV, and the Foundation's CTO goes on record
- Obituary: Vami_IV
- Traffic report: Supervalentinefilmbowlday
- WikiCup report: High-scoring WikiCup first round comes to a close
Tech News: 2024-10
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The
Special:Book
page (as well as the associated "Create a book" functionality) provided by the old Collection extension has been removed from all Wikisource wikis, as it was broken. This does not affect the ability to download normal books, which is provided by the Wikisource extension. [19] - Wikitech now uses the next-generation Parsoid wikitext parser by default to generate all pages in the Talk namespace. Report any problems on the Known Issues discussion page. You can use the ParserMigration extension to control the use of Parsoid; see the ParserMigration help documentation for more details.
- Maintenance on etherpad is completed. If you encounter any issues, please indicate in this ticket.
Gadgets allow interface admins to create custom features with CSS and JavaScript. The
Gadget
andGadget_definition
namespaces andgadgets-definition-edit
user right were reserved for an experiment in 2015, but were never used. These were visible on Special:Search and Special:ListGroupRights. The unused namespaces and user rights are now removed. No pages are moved, and no changes need to be made. [20]- A usability improvement to the "Add a citation" in Wikipedia workflow has been made, the insert button was moved to the popup header. [21]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar). [22][23]
Future changes
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [24]
- The HTML markup of headings and section edit links will be changed later this year to improve accessibility. See Heading HTML changes for details. The new markup will be the same as in the new Parsoid wikitext parser. You can test your gadget or stylesheet with the new markup if you add
?useparsoid=1
to your URL (more info) or turn on Parsoid read views in your user options (more info).
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MediaWiki message delivery 19:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Empty categories tool
Hello, Legoktm,
I'm not sure what is up with Empty categories tool but I submitted it and it won't process the request. It usually takes a few minutes but it's been a few hours and it's still going. It just doesn't finish and keeps loading on and on and on. I tried refreshing the screen, opening up a new tab and pasting in the URL but it just hangs there, unfinished. I don't know how to cancel it and start over again or abort. Can you figure out what's the problem? Thanks very much for any help you can supply. Liz Read! Talk! 09:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- The page is still loading. I think it's terminally in process! Liz Read! Talk! 21:16, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry about that @Liz, I'm not really sure what went wrong, but I added in a check that if it remains in pending for more than 15 minutes, it'll just error out so you can restart the query. Legoktm (talk) 05:45, 7 March 2024 (UTC)