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A fact from Dark forest hypothesis appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 November 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that some scientists believe we may live in a "dark forest"?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:49, 29 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that some scientists believe we may live in a "dark forest"?

Source: https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2015JBIS...68..142Y/abstract (PDF)

- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Raid on Kronstadt
- Comment: Might make a good quirky hook.

Converted from a redirect by Shibbolethink (talk). Nominated by LordPeterII (talk) at 16:28, 25 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

As suggested by the author, I hereby add

ALT1 ... that some scientists believe we may live in a "dark forest" universe?

for your consideration. I personally prefer the original hook as it retains more of a surprise element, but ALT1 probably is a safer bet if accuracy is deemed more important. ("universe" could either be wikilinked or not) –LordPeterII (talk) 15:11, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

@LordPeterII: Good article! Everything looks good so I will approve. Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:41, 28 October 2022 (UTC) Onegreatjoke (talk) 17:41, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Phrase vs hypothesis

I made an edit to this article based on the linked-to Brin article. Brin uses the term “Deadly Probes” to describe something that as far as I can tell is nearly identical to the “Dark Forest” hypothesis that Wikipedia attributes to Liu Cixin. I don’t understand why my change was reverted. The revert notice says something to the effect that if I have another source, we can discuss; the other source is the Brin article. I don’t understand why various Wikipedia articles maintain that the Liu Cixin novel is the origin of the hypothesis, when Brin clearly stated it in 1983. Can we reinstate my changes? —Elysdir (talk) 05:19, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]