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On 10 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from From the River to the Sea to From the river to the sea. The result of the discussion was moved.

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"Jewish-occupied Palestinian lands" needs to be removed it is an opinionnot fact. it is just called Israel, and it is a leagal country, political opinions and biases have no place in knowledge. 108.7.65.121 (talk) 13:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done as phrase not found. Selfstudier (talk) 13:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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From "The 1964 charter of the Palestine National Council (PNC) demanded "the recovery of the usurped homeland in its entirety".[8] "

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The 1964 charter of the Palestine National Council (PNC) demanded "the recovery of the usurped homeland in its entirety, calling for the complete annihilation of the sovereign, legally created nation of Israel and its people.".[8] BrakeYawSelf (talk) 23:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The quoted text is not in the cited source (WP:VERIFY). Jamedeus (talk) 23:30, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad Khalidi - wrong internal link

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In the Response to criticism section, I think the wikilink to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Khalidi should be removed. It seems clear that the person who is quoted in the NYT article is not the person with a wikipedia page because they don't have the same exact name, they don't hold their PhDs from the same institution and they didn't teach at the same places. The link is very confusing because Ahmed Mubarak Al-Khalidi is a member of the PNA, so suggesting this is him responding to criticism in the NYT makes the response look very biased. Bio for the Oxford researcher: https://www.gcsp.ch/our-experts/dr-ahmad-samih-khalidi . Thank you!

Ab930 (talk) 11:04, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Onceinawhile (talk) 11:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Ab930 (talk) 11:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Problems of the leading:

Islamist militant faction Hamas used the phrase in its 2017 charter. Its use by such Palestinian militant groups has led critics to argue that it implicitly advocates for the dismantling of Israel, and a call for the removal or extermination of the Jewish population of the region.

A link to the English translation of Hamas charter: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

I didn't see the relationship: I believe Hamas's reference to "from river to sea" is from the Article 20 of their charter, but in the same article Hamas stated its acceptance of the 1967 borders. Moreover, Hamas has stated in Articles 16 and 17 that they do not hate Jews and oppose Antisemitism. Why would Hamas's use of the slogan lead to it being explained as genocide of the Jews? This makes no sense.

It is a fact that Hamas quotes this slogan in their charter, and it may be another fact that some critics believe that this slogan means the expulsion of Jews, but is there a causal relationship between them?

Reference 8 makes no mention of the causal relationship, and the same goes for reference 10. Reference 10 simply quotes some "Jewish organization" saying there is a causal link, which is obviously an opinion, but the article describes it as a fact, this is a WP:SYNTH.

I think "Its use by such Palestinian militant groups has led critics to argue that it implicitly advocates for the dismantling of Israel, and a call for the removal or extermination of the Jewish population of the region." should be changed to "Critics argue that its use by such Palestinian militant groups means it implicitly advocates the dismantling of Israel, and a call for the removal or extermination of the Jewish population of the region." ——🦝 The Interaccoonale ^{Will be the raccoon race}_{(talk・contribs)} 13:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And even according to these sources, the cause is not the 2017 Charter, but the Operation Al-Aqsa Flood. ——🦝 The Interaccoonale ^{Will be the raccoon race}_{(talk・contribs)} 08:52, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong link

The link marked with (3) has nothing to do with the preumtion this slogan was created by zionists. Please be more careful. 91.80.83.35 (talk) 15:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+972 Magazine

This publication is not a reliable source on the topic. I'm deleting 2 sentences that cite this source. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Let's keep wikipedia encyclopedic. Badabara (talk) 16:12, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]