Talk:Mayday (Canadian TV series)

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I tried redirecting this page by following the directions on one of Wikipedia's Help pages but it seems I'm doing something wrong, I'm not sure. It will be up to someone else. There is already a page for this series here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Crash_Investigation

"Mayday" is an alternate title.

"Mayday" is not an alternate.

Appropriate title

The article was renamed Mayday, since it's a Canadian production, and the title in Canada is as such. -- AirOdyssey 01:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not many countries have Discovery Channel Canada but more countries have National Geographic Channel. So most people would refer to Mayday as Air Crash Investigation. Mayday is an alternate title.

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Do you have anything to substantiate that claim? I don't want to have to revert your edit one more time. P.S. It's a lot easier to sign your posts by putting four tildes (~) instead. AirOdyssey (Talk) 04:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Refer to "Change the page!" below as well. AirOdyssey (Talk) 05:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Episodes 11 and 12

Please leave Silkair 185 on the page because it is part of the mayday series even though the intro does not look the same.

You should add your message to the bottom; I didn't see it until now. 'Silkair' may be episode 12 but it definitely doesn't replace "Crash of the Century". I got a look at 'Air Crash Investigations' and everything is the same except narrator, title, and names of select episodes. I think the article should support all versions and have 'season 4' where it exists in 'Mayday'. Stoikiometry 05:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

These episodes are not part of this series, so i removed them. Episode 11 (Crash of the Century/Collision on the Runway) is part of the Seconds from Disaster series, and Episode 12 is a separate documentary. SchueyFan 08:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about this? I just saw "Crash of the Century" a few days ago on Discovery Canada, and it was definitely part of the Mayday series. If it wasn't shown as part of the series in other markets, does that mean it's not part of the series?

SchueyFan, what do you mean by 'add source'? If "Crash of the Century" isn't aired outside Canada that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If 'source' means 'proof' I had recorded it and it's on my computer. 74.120.184.186 01:42, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, i thought it was part of another series, as it was referred to at one stage as being 'also known as Collision on the Runway', which is a Seconds from Disaster episode. I didn't know that it was only in Canada. Thanks for proving it is a Mayday episode - you can add it back whenever you wish. Also, why was it on Discovery Channel, when most Mayday/Air Crash Investigation shows are on National Geographic Channel. Seems confusing... SchueyFan 12:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I added ep. 11 back in. The channel I was referring to is Discovery Canada, by the way, which is quite distinct from the US Discovery channel. It is showing Mayday on Saturdays... and I suspect that ep. 12 was also shown, but I missed it, so I am not 100% sure about this one. vttoth

Agreed. I wouldn't re-add #12 just yet. I've been keeping track of what TDC Canada was showing (a bit erratic with end of S3 and S4) and #12 hasn't popped up. http://www.discoverychannel.ca/_listings/ It would be nice to know why 82.7.41.51 removed some original episode names and replaced #11 with one I've never heard of. Stoikiometry 19:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, why would they show it only in Australia? To reply to Stoikiometry, this is probably because in many areas (such as australia, where i am), the episodes are only referred to under those names. Regarding the SilkAir Pilot Suicide Episode; I'm pretty sure that this episode isn't part of this series, though. It has aired in Australia under its own name, not under the 'Air Crash Investigation' name, which all other episodes go under. SchueyFan 06:10, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but at least both names were there before. It hasn't been restored yet so I'll do that now. Stoikiometry 01:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think crash scene investigation should be a different article even though it was made by the same people who made mayday. You could call it Mayday 2.

Ive got three ideas for Crash Scene Investigation season 2: Episode 1 - Moorgate Tube Crash Episode 2 - M/S Estonia Episode 3 - USS Thresher

For some reason, the alternative names are gone again, so is Crash of the Century - and the SilkAir episode is back in... Crash Scene Investigation still has its own article, and i think it deserves to keep itSchueyFan 13:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They alternatives are not gone, just replaced the originals. 82.7.41.51 is making it his/her personal article removing evidence of the original. I made for compromise with SilkAir as episode 12 but 'Crash of the Century' (the real episode 11) was removed again. I never said to remove the 'Crash Scene Investigation' article hence the note for season 4 "Outside Canada see Crash Scene Investigation". 82.7.41.51 is being ignorant not vandalizing but I'm not going to be involved in an edit war. Stoikiometry 21:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw Crash of the Century a few weeks ago and it definitely is produced by the same people, uses the same narrator, and has the same look and feel of the series. Why isn't this included? At least put it in and make a note or something.

It should be in, and was in - but it was removed - as mentioned above... SchueyFan 13:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Crash of the Century" should be left on the Mayday page. I come from a not-very-well-known country called Papua New Guinea and I've seen "Crash of the Century". I mean, that 2 hour show is shown around the world.

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Special episodes section

I saw the Tenerife episode. It was broadcast both as a 2-hour special in the French-Canadian version of the show ("Danger dans les airs"), and as 1-hour regular episode in "Mayday", with same intro, narrator, etc. Therefore, I created a separate section, since no one seems to agree if they are part of the series or what not. One thing is for sure: it appears on the listing (as of September 4, 2006) : See Discovery Channel Canada website No news about the SilkAir episode, though.

This is a Canadian production, and I corrected the names of the episodes to reflect those used in Canada. -- AirOdyssey 20:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's possible season 3 is only 10 episodes and the 1-hour Mayday version of Tenerife is like a special, but it was aired immediately after Ocean Landing. Stoikiometry 19:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Air Crash Investigations - Seconds From Disaster- Collision On The Runway" is how it is titled in the copy I have. There is also "Air Crash Investigations - Seconds From Disaster - Concorde", about the 2000 crash. --Guinnog 08:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because they (Seconds from Disater and Mayday) don't want to cover the same event twice. SchueyFan 14:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crash of the Century has no relation to Seconds From Disaster. Seconds From Disaster titles the Tenerife collision as Collision on the Runway and runs for only an hour.

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Hello all I do not understand why people think it is good to have the episode lists on the main page, I had made a individual page for them a long time ago and it made the main page neat, tidy and also the episode page was neat tidy and easily understood. However, with the current arrangment I believe that the main page now looks very very cluttered, in bad form, messy and extremely difficult to understand. Whoever, decided to make this decision and delete my work, I must say it has made the page appear utterly pathetic, I hope other people will consider my suggestion and hopefully revert it back to the tidy setup I made in the past. Thankyou.

--Aaron J Nicoli 13:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Change the Page!

Mayday is a Canadian production but not many countries have Discovery Channel Canada. Countries have more of National Geographic Channel so the page should be named Air Crash Investigation. The TV documentary is put on many other TV networks and might rename different episodes. There should be an area for National Geographic titles (main titles), Discovery Canada titles and other networks titles. You should put the dates in the episode texts in case people forget the date or take no notice of the Date of Disaster column.

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P.S.: I am getting VERY angry about the changes!

No Merging!

I have heard that Crash Scene Investigation will be joined with Mayday. This shouldn't happen because despite being a spin-off, Crash Scene Investigation is completely different. It has episodes about train and ship disasters.

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P.S.:Don't mess with me!

Threats are a poor way to cooperate in wikipedia. Also, I agree with the proposed merge. "Completely different" is subjective I guess, because they sound exactly the same to me, with just the one difference. quadpus 13:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) quadpus 13:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about being angry. It usually happens to me even though I'm 11 years old. I don't really know how to do tildes but I'll give it a try. Well, I do think Crash Scene Investigation is the same as Mayday with their presentation to the disasters. Except the types of disasters. The pages shouldn't merge.

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P.S.: Don't worry. I'm in a good mood now. No threats fro now.--202.95.200.3 13:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not you're in a good mood, no personal attacks. Please don't repeat that, you will be blocked. Thanks - xC - | ☎ 16:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Crash Scene Investigation

Does anyone other than 202.95.200.3 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) object to this merge? If not I'll go ahead and do it in the next couple of days. Crash Scene Investigation is part of Mayday, and a pretty paltry article to stand on its own. quadpus 23:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. As of now, no other objections. Please go ahead with the merge, I don't know enough about the subject to really lend a hand, but if anything comes up, drop me a line on my talk page. Happy editing, cheers! - xC - | ☎ 13:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I object. Why should it be merged? There's no justification I see for it to be merged, and it is a different series, just like CSI: Crime Scene Investigation and CSI:Miami are different series.--Prosfilaes 14:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As they are produced, in their native country, they are not different series - they are both simply "Mayday". The CSI pages are separate because they are extremely popular shows and each page contains too much information to be smashed together. They even have separate pages for every episode. quadpus 22:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I know I didn't want any merging BUT I think it we can go ahead with the merging. Although different, they're the same thing. Possibly put the spin-off episodes in season 3 as this was when they were made, but note that it is part of Crash Scene Investigation.

A message from 202.95.200.3.--202.95.200.3 10:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I, too, object the merge. They are two different TV programs to start with and besides, most of the folks who watch Air Crash Investigation are aviation enthusiasts, including me. I don’t think we are very interested watching stupid train crashes. En51cm 20:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am in favour of the merge, providing it separates the two parts up in the article under the headings used in foreign countries each with a short text about that section. I don't think that En51cm can make the claim that most people who watch it are aviation enthusiasts - I wouldn't call myself an enthusiast, but I watch the show.

Alternatively, create a Mayday article with general Canadian stuff, a Air Crash article with this program and then a Crash Scene article with that information. Then simply link from Mayday to the other two. -- Philipwhiuk 22:59, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another "Mayday" TV series - about ship disasters

Channel 4 in Britain broadcast a completely different TV series called "Mayday". It was about shipping disasters, and had four parts: "Deadly Playground", "Lost at Sea", "On the Bridge" and "Fatal Flaw". --GCarty 16:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]