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Is this individual worthy of a Wikipedia page?

This article reads like a resume and advertisement. Should it be taken down? 73.17.143.115 (talk) 07:21, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

yes it should, he has only 50k followers in twitter. he's not even famous enough. 2804:1B3:7083:C57D:D95E:AF6E:D4BF:F221 (talk) 19:52, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of Interest

Why would you remove the citation to the conflict of interest? It's from the study's own disclosure? Readers should know that his research is funded through a grant from manufacturers of puberty blocker drugs. RaySmall88 RaySmall88 (talk) 03:12, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:NPOV, what "readers should know" is best decided based on what reliable, secondary sources focus on. One of the conflicts your edit included was not mentioned by the National Review source and should definitely not be included. For the rest, we're already affording the National Review piece as much weight as it merits by summarizing Levine's points. Further detail is undue. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Turban included it himself in the disclosures of his study. It doesn't get any more reliable than that.

"JLT received a pilot research award for general psychiatry residents from The American

Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, supported by Industry Sponsors (Arbor and

Pfizer),"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357792124_Access_to_gender-affirming_hormones_during_adolescence_and_mental_health_outcomes_among_transgender_adults RaySmall88 (talk) 03:28, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with what Firefangledfeathers has said. The allegation from Levine was already included with the requisite weight based on its merits, and consensus about the National Review is that statements from it should be attributed. The other two citations; the AACAP Pilot Research Award press release, and (presumably) the funding excerpt from a January 2022 paper, when used in this manner constitute WP:SYNTH and original research, and would be not allowed in the article space. Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Child abuse

This page should be taken down or updated to reflect the fact this individual is actively promoting "gender affirming" child mutilation and chemical castration of minors with puberty blockers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:4300:AAF0:6C9C:6D9D:85B6:3016 (talk) 03:57, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Andrevan. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Andre🚐 04:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blowback against gender affirming care needs to be part of Jack Turban's wikipedia page.

It is indisputable that there has been legislation and health authority directives to move away from the gender affirming care that Turban has advocated. This page should reflect that. Deanbill22 (talk) 23:22, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Short answer no. This is not an article about gender-affirming care, so WP:COATRACK applies. With respect to the content you added and I've reverted, per WP:UGC we cannot cite a Wikipedia article as a source in another article, and Realitys Last Stand appears to be a self-published Substack blog, so not a reliable source.

I would also heavily dispute health authority directives to move away from the gender affirming care. No major public health bodies have "moved away from gender-affirming care". It remains available for adults and youth in the countries you listed. Sideswipe9th (talk) 23:56, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There have been many articles on Jack Turban's conflict of interest. Those opinions should be included on this page. PerseusMeredith (talk) 01:43, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cass Review Should be Included

I'm struggling to understand why this continues to be taken off. You have a two year, independent review of gender affirming care performed by NHS. WSJ, Washington Post and NY Times have all covered the Cass Report. Turban's study was specifically cited and received a low-score. How is that misleading? The post specifically cited the report and the language was verbatim from the report. PerseusMeredith (talk) 18:39, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]