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Inaccurate

The beginning part of this article is grossly inaccurate, an it appears to have been written by someone who is a "Cherokee-file" but not actually Native American. Chickamauga was a Chickasaw village that the band of renegade Cherokees fled to, when kicked out of the Cherokee Nation. Chickamauga means "place to look out" in Chickasaw. Over time, the village attracted other renegades from the Cherokees, Upper Creeks, Shawnees and even some Midwestern tribes. Eventually, the majority of Chickamaugas were Cherokee, but there was always a large percentage of the guerillas, who were Muskogeans. Until 1785 almost all of Northern Georgia was owned by the Upper Creeks. The Chickasaws had territory in the NW tip while the Cherokees had territory in the NE tip. The Upper Creeks allowed their allies, the Chickamauga Cherokees to take refuge there. By the mid-1780s so many Cherokees had moved there that it was defacto Cherokee territory. Recognizing that, the United States designated northwestern Georgia as Cherokee hunting territory in 1785, while giving the Creeks most of Alabama as compensation. Talamachusee (talk) 12:36, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One does not have to be a Native American to write articles about them, one only has to use WP:NPOV, WP:CITE, WP:FRINGE, and WP:RELIABLE.He iro 17:37, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

History says something different. The name "Chickasaw" is actually the English spelling of their name which is "Chikashsha". Also, the Chickasaw settled much further west and only ventured, in great numbers, as far east as modern day Lawrence County, Tennessee. While I agree that Chickamauga is not Cherokee, the Cherokee did maintain the names of a lot of villages they controlled, like Etowah, which is Muscogean. The Cherokee called the village "Tsikamagi" which is roughly pronounced "Chee-ka(ga)-mah-gee". Modern day Chickamauga is not where the village was located. There was another Cherokee village there called "Crawfish Spring", named after a Cherokee chief. If it is not Cherokee or Muscogean and the Chickasaw/Choctow settled much further west then the most likely origin is one of the Cherokees sometimes enemy but often ally, the Shawnee. Either way, by 1782 the village was abandoned by the Cherokee for towns further into northern Alabama and northwestern Georgia. Whether by treaty or by threat the Cherokee displaced the majority of the Creeks in the area after the Battle of Taliwa, near Ball Ground, GA, during a long war that started in the 1740s and lasted into the 1750s. Because of treaties in which the Cherokee ceded lands in Virginia and the Carolina's the British and then US governments ultimately included Northwest Georgia as Cherokee Territory but this was only their recognition as most Creeks had moved out of the area and left the Cherokee there anyway. --Tsistunagiska (talk) 13:01, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Curious

I am curious to know why exactly the Chickamaugas decided to side with the American troops. Did they only side with them for peace or did they want new land? TNtoMI2023 (talk) 01:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]