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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BorgQueen talk 12:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that following the 2024 European Parliament election, a political crisis broke out on the French right wing?

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cydd97g1g5po

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lookwide Camp
Comment: A major event in French politics

Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Moondragon21 (talk) 01:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Moondragon21: Unfortunately, I am failing this nomination. The presence of both a merger dispute and a rough translation tag makes this page unsuitable for DYK. Thank you for your nomination regardless - Kimikel (talk) 03:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It has been proposed in this section that 2024 The Republicans alliance crisis be renamed and moved to 2024 The Republicans (France) crisis.

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National Rally–The Republicans alliance crisis → 2024 The Republicans (France) crisis – The crisis mostly concerns The Republicans, and has little to do with the National Rally party. They were just there and said "OK" to Ciotti's faction joining their movement. I understand the current name but it's both too long and gives too much spotlight to the RN. The French article is called "2024 crisis in The Republicans party", which is a more accurate description of the situation. I suggest 2024 The Republicans (France) crisis, in line with the name of the article The Republicans (France). Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: It's more natural to refer to it talking about both parties in the alliance, and it matters a lot which specific party The Republicans allied with. It's only a crisis because they allied with the National Rally. It can be referred to as the Name Year Crisis, but it's more informative not to. If sources describe it that way then, okay, but otherwise it should not be moved. The title is long but appropriately so. Mrfoogles (talk) 22:57, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. This was mostly an internal affair. Even if the casus belli was the announcement of an alliance with RN, but RN's direct involvement in the crisis itself was limited (if any), and the article revolves around LR's internal crisis. This, coupled with WP:CONCISE (The title is no longer than necessary to identify the article's subject and distinguish it from other subjects, which the proposal meets better) and WP:PRECISE (The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects, which the proposal also meets since the current title looks like there was a crisis in RN too), advices for moving the article to the proposed title. Impru20^talk 23:07, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Yeah, I forgot to mention that the article is almost all about the internal crisis within the Republicans party. This proposed title would reflect what the article is actually about. The alliance was just a casus belli, as Impru20 said. Paul Vaurie (talk) 11:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Supportive for the reasons Impru20 said. Would prefer it to be even briefer, but understand that removing France from the title is not really doable Bejakyo (talk) 18:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

or maybe it is? French wikipedia has the article name as fr:Crise de 2024 au parti Les Républicains or roughly 2024 Crisis of The Republicans Party. no references to france. Either way, proposed name is better than the current Bejakyo (talk) 18:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

French Wikipedia can omit France because France mainly speaks French. The US speaks English, so an omission may cause confusion with the US' GOP. The current title's "National Rally-" prevents confusion, so the new title should address this. 174.92.25.207 (talk) 11:30, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-support - having a bracket mid-title is clunky, and given that there haven't been any crises related to any other "The Republicans", I feel like the France might be better dropped. 2024 The Republicans alliance crisis might work better? Couruu (talk) 09:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although WP:TITLE says parentheses after the name and intitle:/.+ \(.+\) .+/ returns mostly redirects and chemicals, there are some other articles. I do think this kind of title is rare if not weird.

Support alt 2024 The Republicans alliance crisis 174.92.25.207 (talk) 11:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]