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Please add your comment in a new section by clicking here. Thanks. Ccson

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ClockworkSoul 01:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Heads up.

He's back. I've been reverting all of his edits, but let me know if you think I should be semi-protecting any pages (I think you have most of the relevant ones watchlisted). | Mr. Darcy talk 18:49, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Congrats on becoming an Admin, and Happy New Year.--Ccson 04:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Please take a look at the use of copyrighted material or links to it on the article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alpha_Phi_Alpha&diff=97954326&oldid=97902860

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EL McGrandWizard. 16:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked him. I was just waiting for something more obvious, but the attack on you was pretty plain. Thanks for the notice. | Mr. Darcy talk 18:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Have a look. I believe that 2Cold06 is playing fast and loose with sources, but you're far more familiar with the subject matter. | Mr. Darcy talk 20:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think I was mistaken about Poindexter's notability. If I close the AfD early (as keep), do you think that you (or others) can make the article a legitimate stand-alone entry, rather than just a POV fork from Alpha Phi Alpha? I'm just not familiar enough with the subject matter to handle the content. | Mr. Darcy talk 16:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll provide some assistance, however; I don't want an edit war with MyKungFu/2Cold06, but he shouldn't be editing anyway. I'll get some info from the Alpha history book and provide some data.--Ccson 00:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. He will not edit Wikipedia as long as I'm around. We'll just see how long it takes him to realize that. | Mr. Darcy talk 00:38, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Was that enough reason to remove his comments here? 24.90.165.192 22:47, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Using AKA Presidents Template/Stomp the Yard

Hi, CCson. Thanks for the AKA president template! I am using/modifying it for the Links, Incorporated artice. Also, are you going to go see Stomp the Yard? It might be helpful to incorporate the film's contraversy into the Alpha Phi Alpha article. From the film's preview, I thought I saw the Delta's logo (sigma backwards) and the opposing fraternity is inferenced to be Kappa Alpha Psi, because I heard "yo-yo," and that's trademarked as well as "ice cold" Bearly541 07:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]


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Pledging is no longer acceptable [1] The new process is the MIP and individuals who go thru this are aspirants. How come you didn't learn this and list this? do you have an excuse? do you know what excuses are? 172.197.103.139 21:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC) (final chapter)[reply]

I think am positive this is MKF. I think the main reason that MKF vandalizes Frat and Soror pages is due to not being accepted into the fraternity of his choosing (which is sad, I know), too much time on his hands, or just for show. Thanks for leaving messages on my talk page, and thanks for being supportive. Bearly541 02:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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MKF

Just a warning that the sockpuppet attacks are back. I've detailed his travels here.-Robotam 17:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, your comments link redirected to MrDarcy's page, so I fixed it.-Robotam 17:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

adopting?

hi im peter and i need ADOPTING WILL YOU ADOPT ME IF YOU WILL PLEASE CONTACT ME ON MY PAGE THANKSPjg12 17:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ADOPTION

YOU ARE ON THE LIST OF ADOPTIONS ON WIKIPEDIA AND SAY THAT YOU CAN POINT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTRION PLEASE CAN YOU POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THANKSPjg12 17:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

help?

i am a new user

i would like some help with these template things, i want to know how to make those pretty userboxes i see on user pages so often

also,can i post a small self-representing gif or something for myself on my user page?if so,do i have to resize it myself?

--конфета металл 19:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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hello

i just want to know the base code for making any sort of user box,

as far as i can tell these "userboxes" consist of a colored border,a colord box,a small gif to the left,and a base text module lending itself to a more open text module

im assuming this involves alot of code,but im hoping that wikipedia has some bundled code shortcuts

--конфета металл 19:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry for not responding to your adopt offer, no excuse is adequate but my reason is that we have just begun an audit here and work became a bit over-whelming! My sincere apologies, I do really appreciate your willingness to help. I've removed my "Adopt Me" tag until I have time to properly learn from an adopter such as yourself. edchant 21:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LEAVE my paragraph alone!

--конфета металл 00:37, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

P.S still need help,but i made my own userbox

--конфета металл 01:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

hope you dont mind,but i copyed some code from your userpage to organize mine

--конфета металл 01:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adopted

Thanks for that Ccson, I've updated the tag on my page to show I've been adopted.

First question, whats the best way to remove vandalism? I've got popups working so I can rollover to see the contents of the diff and then use Actions from there to rollback to the previous version if it's vandalism but what if I need to rollback several edits when a vandal has made repeated changes? Is there a quick way to do that? Thanks. edchant 04:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption

Hi! Can you please adopt me? If so, please contact me on my talk page. --Dvyjonest·c·e 19:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request for adoption

Hi, are you still seeking adoptees? I'm an intermediate level Wikipedian who has mostly been writing about bioenergy and related topics. However I'm not too intimate with the inner workings of Wikipedia. It would be nice to have someone to consult for various issues. --Tunheim 08:37, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since I've received no reply to this request, I assume you're too busy editing some article. I will no longer be watching your page for replies. Take care. --Tunheim 09:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption!

I'm a new user here and I'm having trouble understanding Wikipedia. Can you adopt me? --My Name Is Not Earl 03:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The Enigma of What is MyKungFu

This story was really meant for MrDarcy, Ccson, Robotam, Real96/Bearly541 (the edit's to the links and Real's edits to bearly's talk page gave it away) since they were always wondering as to what drove MyKungFu. Initially it was to spread the message of some of the ills that went on with some greek organizations. It later became some of the ills (that had factual basis) of other groups. After a while it was simply the joy of the debate (sentence by sentence as it seemed). Even if you don't know who I am, you are like a family. We've been debating for over a year. The cat and mouse, it honestly has been fun. Some of the article that were initially created were in good faith or eventually became good faith, Gamma Phi, Charles C. Poindexter, Walter M. Kimbrough, Holcombe Rucker, Sigma Pi Phi, and Alpha Kappa Nu. I learned strong references and loved to debate them. I know that many organizations like to be seen in a good light especially when they have their members editing it. That though shouldn't stop Wikipedia as being a source of the whole truth. Which is what I feel was being stopped from being shown. E.g. the hazing incidents of many greek organizations. The ban was a ban; and I asked for the account to be unblocked after a few months. It never happened. Oh well... Many of my screen names were caught, but in the chase there were a number of screen names that you mistakenly thought was MyKungFu. I can tell you that Vkmayes and Mukokeri weren't mine. I really laughed when I saw Real96 labeled a sock; MrDarcy than did a checkuser on her and when it was found false wouldn't apologize. Also how JeffGent was almost labeled a sock by Ccson on Robotam's page. It's funny how so many IP's were labeled socks when they weren't socks at all. Anyway, I am writing because I am currently going thru a family crises. My brother was seriously injured in Iraq by a rocket attack. I found out today on my way back home. I won't be on Wikipedia for a long time. In all it's been a lot of fun. All the best...

MyKungFu MyWingChun 05:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded Dubois at Beta Chapter Banquet, 1932

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Duboisapa1.jpg -Robotam 16:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What a great picture!--Ccson 05:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion of Alpha Phi Alpha brothers category

I noticed that you have made a number of contributions to the "Category:Alpha Phi Alpha brothers" page. I wanted to be sure that you were aware of the discussion about deleting this category. I am a member of Kappa Alpha Psi, and they deleted our category yesterday, so I just wanted to inform you so that you could try to back up the Alpha page before they delete it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pettiebone (talkcontribs) 17:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

  • thank you, I have posted my response. I also did a lot of work adding the kappa Alpha Psi brothers category and names to the list, so I'm sorry it was deleted.--Ccson 16:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Threat from User:Osiris06

I just opened my e-mail and I received the following:

Real96, The Badge of Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Incorporated, is trademarked and copyrighted AND is not for public display. If you continue to display, this matter will be submitted to the General Counsel of the Fraternity and Wikipedia for legal resolution. ******* I have been reverting [2], [3], [4], and [5] his edits to the article. As a result, the user is blocked indef. What do you think? Leave a message here, and I shall respond! Real96 06:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Osiris06 may not be familiar with the necessary procedures regading copyrighted image in wikipedia, however; he/she is welcome to pursue the matter to whatever lenghts he/she feels is necessary. The suggestion to add the pin was requested by another user. An Admin MrDarcy cautioned adding the pin unless certain procedures are followed. I print his reply which was posted on an archived Alpha Phi Alpha discussion page:
The image is copyrighted and can't be used. If someone here takes a picture of a pin and uploads it, that's fine. Taking the JPEG from another site is not. | Mr. Darcy talk 02:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I took the picture of my pin and uploaded to this site, so I think it has satified wikipedia, otherwise I would have received an message that I violated copyright law.--Ccson 03:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As long as you were aware of the situation, that's all I wanted you to know! Real96 04:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.--Ccson 14:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Age Calc template

I just love that age calculation template!!! 2much 20:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Language templates

I noticed that you had added the {{lang}} template to United States Ambassador to Botswana. What is the purpose of that language template? What does it do? I looked at the template docs, and it says that it tags a string of text. But what then? ●DanMSTalk 23:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The occurrence of the lang temp is for a french word used in an english article. Different web browers may not know how to display these words in english. There are lang templates for almost every language known, this article just has a french word. See Template talk:Lang#Rationale.
There was a discussion in February to delete this template but obviously it still exists. Here's what an editor had to say in his quest to keep the template
Keep — or at least reconsider. These templates do more than the deleted template:ll. They are used to mark up words or phrases not in English. They place the name of the language at the beginning, as a wikilink to the article about the language. Then they display the word, with the template marking it in CSS as the language in question, and suggesting appropriate fonts for language-stupid browsers (MSIE). Template:lang-ar allows me to read Arabic words and phrases in my favourite Arabic font. --Gareth Hughes 20:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I hope this helps.--Ccson 01:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the enlightenment. Actually, it doesn’t seem terribly useful for western European languages that use ISO-8859-1. I could see the usefulness of it for languages with other scripts. In the case of chargé d’affaires, I would tend to think that the phrase has been used in English long enough so that it would no longer be considered a foreign word. But I won’t quibble about it. ●DanMSTalk 06:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank You. Most browsers could possibly handle many foreign words, however; this is for "language stupid' browsers. Remember, the web allows anyone from around the world to view our english site of wikipedia, however; this doesn't mean browsers in other countries account for foreign words in the english language. You're welcome.--Ccson 12:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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No need to wait seven days, delete the image.--Ccson 14:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phi Beta Sigma Article

Greetings. I only worked to get the ball rolling on the article. I am going to be working on other things. Whatever changes you feel you need to make go ahead.--EhavEliyahu 18:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NPHC

I removed your comments on the NPHC stuff from my talk page, as it was replication of the conversation I had already moved to the NPHC talk page. Your warning was inappropriate and unnecessary, and I can construe your reverts without any discussion as vandalism in of itself. The change back needs to be discussed on the talk page mentioned above. Please do continue to contribute to the conversation there. Justinm1978 19:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, I won't revert to another version, because for one thing you do not have consensus for your version. Others disagree with you.[6] Also, please stop calling each other vandals. Wikipedia:Avoid the word "vandal". Neither of you are vandalizing the article, so stop the namecalling. ··coelacan 04:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, now would be a great time to go to Talk:Alpha Phi Alpha and make a section there explaining your reasoning, and then invite the other editors to that section for discussion. ··coelacan 05:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was asking for clarification on a wikipedia policy, not what should be acceptable content for the article. I thought an adminsitrator would be able to provide the requested guidance.--Ccson 05:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle is not policy. It is a suggestion for reaching consensus. What I was suggesting is that you discuss the content of the article at the article talk page. That could be a step toward consensus. ··coelacan 05:16, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again, Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle is not policy. As long as Justin isn't breaking WP:3RR or committing other blockable offenses, there isn't much I can do. ··coelacan 05:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ADOPT input

Hello, Ccson. The Adopt-a-User program is looking for new ideas and input on the program. If you are still interested please stop by the talk page and read some of the ideas being floated and give a comment. If you want to update or change your information on the adopter's list page, now would be a great time! Thanks! V60 干什么? · VDemolitions 03:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alpha Phi Alpha Pyramid Picture

I removed it, not because it is simply a picture, but because pictures are supposed to enhance an explanation or situation. Simply showing a picture of the pyramids really isn't all that necessary. Jmlk17 20:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

that's one point of view.--Ccson 02:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it is. How is it fair use as well? Jmlk17 02:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Many people are not familiar with a Sphinx and the image does add value to these individuals. Are you familiar with wikipedia suggestion regarding Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle?
You know what I hate? When someone makes too good of a point :). Just kidding, but seriously, I don't know why, but the picture in the template just rubs me the wrong way. It might just be me, but how about pushing it down into the actual article, where symbolism is discussed more in-depth? Jmlk17 02:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The idea wasn't original, I saw it in the Cornell University when they depicted their mascot. The picture is already in the article, however; i will remove from infobox. thanks for all the good work you do for GLOs. Nice to meet you.--Ccson 02:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; nice to meet you as well. Hope to see you/work with you down the road. Jmlk17 02:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sourced statement

Hi Ccson,

Thanks for the message concerning adding the reference for the Alpha Phi Alpha brothers' biographies. Although it was my intention to add this documentation, almost 25 years of being a member of the fraternity means having to find 25 years worth of documentation which I am in the process of compiling (yes, I have my own personal archives) though I was a bit surprised that some of them did not have it already mentioned. This just probably means that I take knowing who ACTUALLLY belongs to my fraternity a bit more seriously than most and am able to add the information to the bio and be assured that it is indeed correct from memory. That said, all documentation will be added to the brothers whose bios I updated for they, like me, are indeed members of Alpha Phi Alpha.

Now, while we are on the topic, I am a bit surprised that people like Charles Diggs and Roland Hayes had Alpha Phi Alpha mentioned in their bios when they are clearly NOT members of the "brotherhood". I provided "guidance" and alleviated ignorance by removing these men (Diggs is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi, I believe, while Hayes is clearly a member of Omega Psi Phi).

As far as an account goes, well, I got some ridiculous "IP address" block, followd the instructions and, voila, it reappeared. Go figure. Rather than deal with that nonsense, I think I'll just update bios with the correct information and add some references. I think that will be enough factual information.

So, once again, thanks for the message.


Fraternally yours,

Diop

Hi Bro. Ccson,

It just hit me that I can't pinpoint all the bios of the Alpha men that I have updated. Any help that you can provide here for me? If not, I will do the ones I KNOW that I did like Brother Dr. Alfred B. Xuma, past President of the African National Congress. I know that no one else would have added that one. LOL.

Fraternally yours,

Diop


Check these two links for possible articles you updated. You will see the contributions made using the IP address as you scroll down the list.
  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.102.42.175
  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.181.84.128

Roland Hayes was listed as a member of Alpha Phi Alpha in it's Centenary Report of the World Polciy Council. The link was provided in the article before you removed it. Did you check the source before removing the text. I will provide the link here] for your review, pls see page 10 and give me your thoughts.

Hi Ccson,

Thanks for the quick replies. To repeat my previous post, after getting the IP block message (LONG after I had created the original account), I re-created my account using the instructions I was given in the email I received that said it was okay to use my account. When I then tried to use it I STILL got and STILL get the IP block message. So, once again, any suggestions would be helpful here and I thank you in advance.

As far as Mr. Diggs (Kappa Alpha Psi, I believe) and Mr. Hayes (Omega Psi Phi) are concerned, I am trying to find MY documentation on the matter. No offense to anyone (and I am checking the documentation you provided as well-thanks!) but until then, I stand by my previous posts that they are not members of APHIA, period. Before Wikipedia I HAD NEVER, EVER SEEN these two fine African-African men listed as members of APHIA, anywhere. I really don't see that many mistakes concerning our membership, so, as I said earlier, I will continue my research as well.

So please let me know where else to turn with this IP block matter. It has been a nuisance matter. In the meantime, I am blowing the dust off of almost 25 years of archival material that I had forgotten that I had and will provide references as noted in my earlier post.

Thanks a million,

Diop