Talk:Assassin's Creed (video game)/Archive 2

November 9

There are two reliable and respected sources (Eurogamer and Joystiq) stating that its release is November 9. Indeed, the Eurogamer article states they were contacted by Ubisoft because the dates for Haze were incorrect. Wouldn't Ubisoft also have told them if Assassin's Creed was incorrect? As long as the sources are there, and remain Nov 9, that's what the release date should be. If Ubisoft come out and say it's not November 9, and someone can provide a source, that's fine, but at the moment, Eurogamer and Joystiq are what we have to go on. Fin©™ 23:36, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The problem is, they're not Ubisoft. They can say whatever they like, but it doesn't make it fact. Yesterday at E3 Jade Raymond stated that they don't have a finalized release date yet. Thus, that's what we have to go on, and not rumours.68.161.107.165 02:41, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 04:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

The image looks like crap compared to Xbox 360 Cover we had...both are considered "Fair Use" I believe.68.161.107.165 11:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Release Date

[1] says this game is out on September 7... true or not?

Amazon is known to post release-date estimates to increase pre-orders. Take it with a grain of salt and wait for the game to actually go gold. --Brad Beattie (talk) 23:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Especially considering that Ubi has come out and said that the game's being released in November...68.161.53.160 11:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Freeroam?

Is this game freeroam or a level system?

I believe it is level based, as there are three cities, but within the level, it is freeroam. J-stan ^Talk 02:33, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it probably is. Nine assassinations = nine levels, with free-roam throughout the city during each hit. --Alas, Babylon 05:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I know for a fact you can "leave" a city, and there is an interment "journey" level that leads to, acre, Damascus,Jerusalem, and the assassin stronghold of the, the "travel" level, is from what i have seen....Large, like woah large, and it definetly requires a horse.

I believe you can gain upgrades, but to purchase/apply them you have to return to the stronghold, there is also the neccesity to gather something from one city and travel to another.

It in no way staples you to any said city at any time, even if your "hit" is in Damascus, there is nothing to stop you from riding your horse anywhere the hell you please.

Well, yeah, we saw that in that very first game-play demo, when our “hitman” rode a horse into… Acre, wasn’t it? And, dude chill out. It’s like you took a moral offense to a simple mistake, jeez. --Alas, Babylon 19:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Archived

I have made a first archive containing 30 posts. Everyone ok with that? -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Religion/Spirituality Paragraph

Please stop deleting my contribution to this paragraph, whoever you are. It's very irritating. What I said improved the paragraph and is the truth, whether you like it or not.

Razoroo 20:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)Razoroo

To me it seems that you don't like that Altair's probable muslim orientation isn't mentioned. For the game and it's further background story it's simply irrelevant whether he is muslim or not. You didn't post any reference to your statement so this contingency is no more than speculation. I don't understand why you claim on having that religious thing included as it's mentioned before that Altair's not that religious. --ColdCut0815 22:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you at least bring up a reference if you wish to include such a statement. Unless you can do that, it's worthless.

This is the same discussion I have been having on various Gamespot.com forums with other ignorant people. It doesn't matter if he is religious or not; I'm simply saying by birth that he is a Muslim. I'm contributing to the paragraph by giving people further information on his background, and I know that I'm right. I don't need proof or a link or reference and even if Ubisoft never stated exactly what Altair's religion is, it simply must be Islam. I understand that Altair is not religious; neither am I, but I'm still a Muslim. The fact that he's Muslim may not be important to some people, but it is to me and many others, so I'm simply catering to their information needs. I'll say it again; I know I am right, Altair IS a Muslim because he wouldn't even be allowed to join the Hashshashin. Just leave that sentence, it's not going to kill anyone. Razoroo 16:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Until Ubisoft or Ubisoft Montreal or any of the development staff reveals that Altair is muslim it's simply speculation and it doesn't matter if it's logically consistent or not. Appreciate that without any source that sais he is it's just a guess.

Note the sentence that sais: Please do not add speculation to this article, and remember to cite a published source for details. --ColdCut0815 17:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes that's right - it's speculation, even if it seems obvious to you it still counts as original research.87.102.66.173 17:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Remember that the 'altair' is a character in a game, not a real person.

Right.But IF Altair's not a muslim then it's not realistic.Because the Hashashin only accept Shi'ite Muslim.They hate both Sunni(Saladin and his loyal army) and the Crusaders.But the hate Saladin much more.That's true right?Fanatic terrorist 07:06, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

stuff

The article is rather full of stuff for a game not yet released, and a lot of it is rather trivial, with a lot of expansion on the part of the writers of this page. Maybe someone would like to look at cutting it down a bit..87.102.66.173 17:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

the religion of the main character

I removed this " although it can be presumed that he is Muslim by birth. The evidence for this lies in the fact that all members of the Hashshashin were Muslim."

Remember this is not an exercise in logical thinking. The infomation in the article should directly relate to the game. Also see Wikipedia:No original research - although this may seem ridiculous to you - stating that altair is a muslim counts as original research since you've infered it and we don't have a reference.

I think it's important to remember that this is an imaginary character in a computer game - though we already have been given a lot of background on him, we have been told that he is spiritual. Remember that this is fiction - in fiction anything can happen - for all we know he could have secretly converted to judaism whilst in the hashinin. Anything is possible. Remember that this game is historical fantasy - and so do not have to follow the rules of the real world.87.102.5.166 21:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Right."Everything is not true.Everything is permitted." So killing the Hashashin leader too permitted?Fanatic terrorist 07:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)